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Outlook for Daboll/Schoen: a hypothetical

Started by DaveBrown74, December 06, 2023, 01:43:38 PM

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Jclayton92

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on December 07, 2023, 08:04:46 AMSo, just so I am clear:

After having observed him play a total of just 20 games in the NFL, we are now fully convinced Evan Neal is definitely a bust and need to draft his replacement with a high first round pick, which will be our third top 10 offensive tackle in four years, but we still don't know what Daniel Jones is after 60 games and should therefore definitely not pick a QB in the first round.

Correct?
Has he even played 20 yet, it may be less than that lol. I've been perplexed at that for awhile, the same contingent left Thibs for dead as well earlier this season.

Jclayton92

We drafted a LG, C, RG, and RT in the last year and a half with high draft picks... but let's not develop them or give them time and just keep drafting more olinemen because they aren't elite absolutely immediately.

Philosophers

Quote from: Jclayton92 on December 07, 2023, 01:15:59 PMWe drafted a LG, C, RG, and RT in the last year and a half with high draft picks... but let's not develop them or give them time and just keep drafting more olinemen because they aren't elite absolutely immediately.

The frustrating part is other teams draft an Ol in a non-1st round and they end up being quality starters in first year.  Think of Michael Onwenu the G for the Pats, Trey Smith, G for the Chiefs, Landon Dickerson, G for the Eagles.  On and on.

We struggle to get good play period aside from Thomas.

Jclayton92

Quote from: Philosophers on December 07, 2023, 02:42:02 PMThe frustrating part is other teams draft an Ol in a non-1st round and they end up being quality starters in first year.  Think of Michael Onwenu the G for the Pats, Trey Smith, G for the Chiefs, Landon Dickerson, G for the Eagles.  On and on.

We struggle to get good play period aside from Thomas.
Yes but that is 95% coaching in my opinion, Buffalo had the same issue when our oline coach was with them. So much so that the HC McDermott took over and switched the entire scheme they were using because he thought Johnson wasn't using players strengths and simply only coaching what he was comfortable with.

When JMS is a monster for several years in college, and Neal is a universal #1 OT and at the top of his game in the SEC for 3 years, and everyone is underperforming its a coaching, training, health issue. We know these guys have hours and hours of great tape, at some point we've got to change the training/medical staff, oline coach, and then grab a Qb that processes the field quickly and I think you'll see significant change in the development of the entire line.