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Greg Cosell: NFC East 2024 season preview

Started by MightyGiants, July 06, 2024, 09:22:46 AM

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The question then becomes is pocket movement purely instinctive or can it be developed at this late stage? By the way, I'm not thinking of Mahomes- or Brady-like movement just an Eli level if he lacks that much.

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Quote from: Painter on July 06, 2024, 10:02:57 AMThe question then becomes is pocket movement purely instinctive or can it be developed at this late stage? By the way, I'm not thinking of Mahomes- or Brady-like movement just an Eli level if he lacks that much.

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Greg Cosell was asked that question in the full video.  While he was led a bit by Ross Tucker, Greg essentially said it's not a trait that improves significantly over time.
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I fully concur with the distinction both men make here between pocket movement ability and athleticism outside the pocket. I think most casual fans understand that difference. Jones is very strong at the latter but not very good at the former, and that deficiency is particularly problematic with a struggling O line.

Interesting point also by both men that this problem is not likely to get better. Seemed like Tucker asked Cossell to list an example of a QB who got meaningfully better at this trait, and he didn't seem able to come up with one, at least not off the top of his head.

I personally think mobility within the pocket is huge. When I watch someone like Burrow or Allen, that trait is one of the first things that jumps out at me, and with Jones you just don't see it, at least not anything like what you see from a number of other QBs who have had success in this league.