NFT- DJ ranked 23rd by NFL execs

[MightyGiants]

Mike Sando's annual QB rankings by NFL personnel



https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5720231/2024/08/24/new-york-giants-roster-projection-azeez-ojulari/

[H-Town G-Fan]

Seems pretty fair.

[katkavage]

If he has a good year he can make the leap up into the top 20, the ceiling being 15 or 16. Better but not gonna win you a championship. I like when outsiders rank Giants. Much more reliable and objective than hearing from loyalists and ex-Giants.

[EDjohnst1981]

Seems reasonable and familiar to what a number of posters have been saying for sometime.

Not long to find out.

[Trench]

Exactly what the man is

[DaveBrown74]

"Would you rather have Daniel Jones at $40mm or, say, Jacoby Brissett at one fifth the cost?"



I think this is a very reasonable question to ask. Jones is no doubt the better runner, and that matters, but as passers these two QBs look pretty similar. I appreciate comparisons are not black and white and that they are instead nuanced and full of context, etc, but it's nonetheless difficult to make the argument that Jones is a much better passing QB than Jacoby Brissett. I know plenty of Giants fans don't want to hear that or admit it, but I just don't see how anyone can objectively make this claim with real confidence.

You could say the same thing about Mitchell Trubisky, and others.

While I understand that $40mm/yr is no longer THAT rich for a second QB contract, the point is that you can get Jones-like production for much, much less in the free agent market. That is the biggest issue with him right now. If you pay Jones $40mm, while that may only be the 15th or 16th highest AAV right now, you're still throwing away $25m or $30m of cap space because you can replicate his production for $10m-$15m in the free agent market. That's a significant amount of cap space to just be throwing away. Imagine what you could have on the roster with an extra $25m-$30m to spend.

[Hadron]

The QBs below him (in no order):

Justin Fields
Jacoby Brissett
Sam Darnold
Will Levis
Bryce Young
Anthony Richardson
Gardner Minshew

They only included 30 QBs and did not include the rookies

[Jclayton92]

"Would you rather have Daniel Jones at $40mm or, say, Jacoby Brissett at one fifth the cost?"



I think this is a very reasonable question to ask. Jones is no doubt the better runner, and that matters, but as passers these two QBs look pretty similar. I appreciate comparisons are not black and white and that they are instead nuanced and full of context, etc, but it's nonetheless difficult to make the argument that Jones is a much better passing QB than Jacoby Brissett. I know plenty of Giants fans don't want to hear that or admit it, but I just don't see how anyone can objectively make this claim with real confidence.

You could say the same thing about Mitchell Trubisky, and others.

While I understand that $40mm/yr is no longer THAT rich for a second QB contract, the point is that you can get Jones-like production for much, much less in the free agent market. That is the biggest issue with him right now. If you pay Jones $40mm, while that may only be the 15th or 16th highest AAV right now, you're still throwing away $25m or $30m of cap space because you can replicate his production for $10m-$15m in the free agent market. That's a significant amount of cap space to just be throwing away. Imagine what you could have on the roster with an extra $25m-$30m to spend.

https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2022/11/5/23441759/jacoby-brissett-pff-browns-top-10#:~:text=Pro%20Football%20Focus%20labeled%20Brissett,ahead%20of%20Burrow%20and%20Jackson.


Brissett at a 1/5th of the cost.

[DaveBrown74]

https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2022/11/5/23441759/jacoby-brissett-pff-browns-top-10#:~:text=Pro%20Football%20Focus%20labeled%20Brissett,ahead%20of%20Burrow%20and%20Jackson.


Brissett at a 1/5th of the cost.

Considering what 4/5ths of the cost of Daniel Jones buys you on an NFL roster, I would agree.

[AZGiantFan]

"Would you rather have Daniel Jones at $40mm or, say, Jacoby Brissett at one fifth the cost?"



I think this is a very reasonable question to ask. Jones is no doubt the better runner, and that matters, but as passers these two QBs look pretty similar. I appreciate comparisons are not black and white and that they are instead nuanced and full of context, etc, but it's nonetheless difficult to make the argument that Jones is a much better passing QB than Jacoby Brissett. I know plenty of Giants fans don't want to hear that or admit it, but I just don't see how anyone can objectively make this claim with real confidence.

You could say the same thing about Mitchell Trubisky, and others.

While I understand that $40mm/yr is no longer THAT rich for a second QB contract, the point is that you can get Jones-like production for much, much less in the free agent market. That is the biggest issue with him right now. If you pay Jones $40mm, while that may only be the 15th or 16th highest AAV right now, you're still throwing away $25m or $30m of cap space because you can replicate his production for $10m-$15m in the free agent market. That's a significant amount of cap space to just be throwing away. Imagine what you could have on the roster with an extra $25m-$30m to spend.

Context matters.  In the 3 seasons when Brissett threw for more than 2000 yards he was behind the 12th, 3rd, and 1st ranked offensive lines.