Giants VS Vikings game thread

[Trench]

I'm so tired of hearing "we will watch the tape" and "will see what we can clean up"....and "we will learn from the tape"

This is all utter nonsense

[Jolly Blue Giant]

The offense gave up more points than they scored.

Defense has work to do but as you said 21 points is not awful.  Burns 4 tackles, one for loss and one pressure is disappointing.  The former #5 overall pick was completely invisible today aside from his penalties.  Not even a tackle in the box score.

That's how the Bears won today. The offense (with new QB Caleb Williams 14/29 w/ 93 total yards' 0 TDs and a QB rating of 55.7) and the team as a whole mustered up 177 total offensive yards today, yet won the game thanks to the defense scoring 3 TDs...go figure 

As far as the Giants go, their defense can keep us in games, but man...they have to figure out an offense. We've got playmakers, but we have no ability to scheme a game to take advantage of them...conservative to a fault. Can't win if we rarely score

DJs biggest fault IMHO, is that he tries to do exactly what the coaches tell him to do...so much so, that he's lost when the called play just isn't there (so he runs, even though it's not enough for a first down). That is what makes Mahomes so dangerous...he's ready to improvise (and does) the very second he sees that the called play ain't there, so he just changes to backyard football - throw to whoever is open. DJ needs that mindset. He's trying so hard to please the coach and only do exactly what he's told to do, even if it's a crappy play call (which most of them are)

[kingm56]

That's how the Bears won today. The offense (with new QB Caleb Williams 14/29 w/ 93 total yards' 0 TDs and a QB rating of 55.7) and the team as a whole mustered up 177 total offensive yards today, yet won the game thanks to the defense scoring 3 TDs...go figure 

As far as the Giants go, their defense can keep us in games, but man...they have to figure out an offense. We've got playmakers, but we have no ability to scheme a game to take advantage of them...conservative to a fault. Can't win if we rarely score

DJs biggest fault IMHO, is that he tries to do exactly what the coaches tell him to do...so much so, that he's lost when the called play just isn't there (so he runs, even though it's not enough for a first down). That is what makes Mahomes so dangerous...he's ready to improvise (and does) the very second he sees that the called play ain't there, so he just changes to backyard football - throw to whoever is open. DJ needs that mindset. He's trying so hard to please the coach and only do exactly what he's told to do, even if it's a crappy play call (which most of them are)

Phili has playmakers (Brown, Smith, Hurts, and Barkley); Dal has playmakers (Dak and Lamb); the Giants playmakers are based on hope. Right now, the Giants lack a single certified playmaker.  They have protentional, which is limited by poor QB play.

I continue to completely and fundamentally disagree with your assessments, as they relate to DJ; he's not being held back because he adheres to coaching.  If anything, our coaches are limited by his inability to routinely complete passes beyond 7-yards, or make off-schedule plays.  I suspect Kafka and Daboll would prefer to call the plays that made them successful in KC and BUF, but they can't.   DJ biggest problem has always been, and continues to be, mental acuity.  He lacks the processing speed required to be a plus NFL passer.   After 5+ seasons, this isn't going to improve...

[kartanoman]

I'm so tired of hearing "we will watch the tape" and "will see what we can clean up"....and "we will learn from the tape"

This is all utter nonsense

They should be fined $100,000 every instance they say those things, and give it back to the season ticket holders at year's end as a refund and an apology for putting out an inferior entertainment service.

[kartanoman]

Sorry for the F word but this gave me a chuckle on an otherwise miserable afternoon:

https://x.com/super70ssports/status/1832856117992468734?s=46

No sense of historical nostalgia! You take the lone good thing about today and drag it into the gutter by suggesting historical 1933 Giants fornicate with Wolverines!

I'm taking my Ray Flaherty piss-pot and am going home, so there!

Toodles!

[spiderblue43]

Daboll cant afford another embarrassing loss next week. He has to rally this team somehow or this season and his coaching career with the Giants is going likely to be toast. Watch the tape, coach? No, burn it. I have serious doubts two years in a row of complete failure in your home opener. Its clear Jones has little grasp of how to improv or deliver the ball accurately or correctly. He's shot after the beating he has taken, injuries and his poor instincts have never been resolved. it's over.

Bobby said it moments ago...he would even put Lock (and he thinks little of him) in after this performance. ouch.

[files58]

I continue to completely and fundamentally disagree with your assessments, as they relate to DJ; he's not being held back because he adheres to coaching.  If anything, our coaches are limited by his inability to routinely complete passes beyond 7-yards, or make off-schedule plays.  I suspect Kafka and Daboll would prefer to call the plays that made them successful in KC and BUF, but they can't.   DJ biggest problem has always been, and continues to be, mental acuity.  He lacks the processing speed required to be a plus NFL passer.   After 5+ seasons, this isn't going to improve...
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This! Dabol(and Schoen) deserve to have their own QB running the show. Not this Gettleman error, exacerbated by Mara and his "we've done everything to screw him up" gifting him the contract, which was tempered by Schoen getting the two year out as a compromise. I believe that's how it went down. In the meantime Mara still has the cash register ringing while the fans are left wringing.