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What is it about the Giants that the national media hates?

Started by shadowspinner0, September 25, 2024, 08:59:25 PM

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TDToomer

Quote from: MrGap92 on September 26, 2024, 11:02:36 AMWhat is there for the national media to like?

It's not about having to like the Giants. What Shadow and myself are asking is to just be as part of the discussion as the numerous franchise that are struggling like the Panthers, Bears, Broncos and Titans. I don't have the time to watch an entire NFL show and record the times they discuss each team but plenty of losing teams are getting way more attention than the Giants. Even if we had a top rookie QB like it wouldn't change. How do I know this. Because they still ignored us in 2019!
"It's extra special against Dallas. That's absolutely a team I can't stand. I've been hating Dallas ever since I knew anything about football." - Brandon Jacobs

LennG


Let's be honest, what is there about the Giants to talk about except why we continue to lose, and the media, like winners?

PLUS, who on the Giants is relevant? They talked Giants when OBJ was here, and now, if Nabors continues to have great success, he will talked about, but who else?  Even when Barkley was here, he was Mr. Fly under the radar and never looked for a spotlight, so he was mentioned, but part of the Giants, nothing special to talk about. Not that we need controversy, but we need players who create a bit of excitement, OUTSIDE of the NY area. Who, on this team does that now, except Nabors and he is still a NY thing, not a national thing as of yet.
We stink and why should the media talk Giants, if not only to laugh at us.
I HATE TO INCLUDE THE WORD NASTY< BUT THAT IS PART OF BEING A WINNING FOOTBALL TEAM.

Charlie Weiss

MrGap92

Quote from: TDToomer on September 26, 2024, 12:11:14 PMIt's not about having to like the Giants. What Shadow and myself are asking is to just be as part of the discussion as the numerous franchise that are struggling like the Panthers, Bears, Broncos and Titans. I don't have the time to watch an entire NFL show and record the times they discuss each team but plenty of losing teams are getting way more attention than the Giants. Even if we had a top rookie QB like it wouldn't change. How do I know this. Because they still ignored us in 2019!


Let's see, we have been pretty bad for 10 years, lacked star power for most of it, are in QB hell, and don't have players causing major issues off the field mostly. How much mileage do you think a non-Giants reporter or outlet can get out of that at this point without being redundant?

We suck, when we stop sucking, and actually gain some steam, that will change

It is really that simple.

Fletch

Quote from: TDToomer on September 26, 2024, 12:11:14 PMEven if we had a top rookie QB like it wouldn't change. How do I know this. Because they still ignored us in 2019!


You're rewriting history. Jones was not a top rookie QB. He was more "you did what at pick #6???!!!" Even if he played well for dj standards it's not like some real top prospect we're talking about . He was zero star recruit walk on for r sakes

LennG

Quote from: MrGap92 on September 26, 2024, 01:01:51 PMLet's see, we have been pretty bad for 10 years, lacked star power for most of it, are in QB hell, and don't have players causing major issues off the field mostly. How much mileage do you think a non-Giants reporter or outlet can get out of that at this point without being redundant?

We suck, when we stop sucking, and actually gain some steam, that will change

It is really that simple.

Many of us have been here for quite a long time. Over the years, when reporters DO do a story on the Giants and it is mostly negative, many here jump on them basically saying they are doing these stories just to hear themselves think. So when someone does do stories on the Giants and they are negative (what else) we accuse them of bias. Sorry, can't have it both ways.
I HATE TO INCLUDE THE WORD NASTY< BUT THAT IS PART OF BEING A WINNING FOOTBALL TEAM.

Charlie Weiss

TDToomer

You do not have to be a good team to be discussed on the national shows on ESPN, NFL, FOX or CBS! There is plenty of discussion on losing and struggling teams, what is wrong and why? The Bears the past 3 seasons is the primo example. Storied franchise in a huge media Market. But the Giants, also a storied franchise, in the largest, get almost nothing.
"It's extra special against Dallas. That's absolutely a team I can't stand. I've been hating Dallas ever since I knew anything about football." - Brandon Jacobs

Philosophers

Perfect example of why national media are s not a Giants fan.  4 field goals, lots of penalties, boring type game.  Are anyone other than a Giants/Cowboys fans watching?

TDToomer

Everyone is completely missing the point of what Shadowsport started and now he has disappeared.
"It's extra special against Dallas. That's absolutely a team I can't stand. I've been hating Dallas ever since I knew anything about football." - Brandon Jacobs

B1GBLUE


TDToomer

Quote from: B1GBLUE on September 27, 2024, 08:58:06 AMmight be because we suck?

Nope. Just another post missing the point. FWIW there is a lot of Giants talk on Sirius sports radio today.
"It's extra special against Dallas. That's absolutely a team I can't stand. I've been hating Dallas ever since I knew anything about football." - Brandon Jacobs

T200

Quote from: TDToomer on September 27, 2024, 11:55:01 AMNope. Just another post missing the point. FWIW there is a lot of Giants talk on Sirius sports radio today.
Plenty of people addressed why. What other football games were on since Monday night are there to talk about?

You mentioned the Panthers and Bears being talked about more than the Giants. Maybe it's because they had high-profile #1 draft picks at QB recently.

Outside of the NY media and losing Barkley, there really isn't much to talk about regarding the Giants if you don't cover their area. Who on the west coast wants to hear about the Giants?
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TDToomer

Quote from: T200 on September 27, 2024, 12:03:45 PMPlenty of people addressed why. What other football games were on since Monday night are there to talk about?

You mentioned the Panthers and Bears being talked about more than the Giants. Maybe it's because they had high-profile #1 draft picks at QB recently.

Outside of the NY media and losing Barkley, there really isn't much to talk about regarding the Giants if you don't cover their area. Who on the west coast wants to hear about the Giants?

There doesn't need to a recent MNF game to discuss football on a national show so I am not following your logic here. Between fantasy lineup decisions and week 4 game previews there is plenty to discuss during the week throughout the entire NFL.

Who on the east coast wants to hear about the Raiders and Chargers? We're talking about nationally televised shows not regional ones. On national shows you will get sports discussion from all over the country.

We have the hottest offensive offensive player so far. That is something to talk about.
We have a head coach on the hot seat. That is something to talk about.
We are trying to figure out if Jones has a future with us or we need to move on. That is something to talk about.
"It's extra special against Dallas. That's absolutely a team I can't stand. I've been hating Dallas ever since I knew anything about football." - Brandon Jacobs