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What woult it take to retain Jones

Started by AZGiantFan, October 03, 2024, 11:45:25 AM

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Quote from: babywhales on October 08, 2024, 08:24:59 AMConsistency in development is a must, IMO. 

In the past, apparent develop was often negated by regression, not lapses as much lengthy trends.

I am eager to see how things play out.  This is literally the first time in his 6 year NFL career that he has all three pillars of QB support at NFL caliber.  In the past, he only had coaching (minus the Judge/Garrett years) with sub-standard protection and receiving targets.  It will be interesting to see how he does as he gets comfortable with the sort of support most successful QBs enjoy.

It's not to say he will thrive, but so far, things are looking good, and I wouldn't look to the past as a solid indicator of his future.

My biggest concern at this point is DJ's ability to stay healthy.  As the old saying goes, he risks writing checks his body can't cash.  He is too tough compared to his body's ability to absorb punishment.
SMART, TOUGH, DEPENDABLE

brownelvis54

Good game. Yes. Jones played well? Yes, but it was one game. And that was against a Seattle team that was plagued with injuries on their defense before that start of the game and raked up more injuries during the game. I think the Giants, and rightfully so will wait until the 17th game to decide if Jones is our starter next season. Where we pick will greatly impact his future as well.



When/Where we pick, and one of these QBs are on the board when its our turn and Dabol feels he could mold the young player, then I thinks he pulls the trigger. An injured prone QB that (so far has been inconsistent) and is older and cost a lot of money V.S. a cheap (5 years) young QB would be hard to pass up


Shedeur Sanders

Jalen Milroe

Carson Beck

Cam Ward

Quinn Ewers

Drew Allar

Jaxson Dart
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#47
Quote from: brownelvis54 on October 08, 2024, 04:23:50 PMGood game. Yes. Jones played well? Yes, but it was one game. And that was against a Seattle team that was plagued with injuries on their defense before that start of the game and raked up more injuries during the game. I think the Giants, and rightfully so will wait until the 17th game to decide if Jones is our starter next season. Where we pick will greatly impact his future as well.



When/Where we pick, and one of these QBs are on the board when its our turn and Dabol feels he could mold the young player, then I thinks he pulls the trigger. An injured prone QB that (so far has been inconsistent) and is older and cost a lot of money V.S. a cheap (5 years) young QB would be hard to pass up


Shedeur Sanders

Jalen Milroe

Carson Beck

Cam Ward

Quinn Ewers

Drew Allar

Jaxson Dart

For having so many "big names," I find this class of QBs to be thoroughly uninspiring.

Sanders is completely off my board. I find him and his "brand" to be the reddest of red flags. I'd legit stop following the Giants if they drafted him.

Beck is the prototypical college QB who plays in a top-flight program and whose game will be totally exposed at the NFL level.

Milroe, Ward, and Dart all come with various warts and major struggles with consistency. Of the 3, I like Dart the best - and he is the youngest - but his play thus far this year against SEC competition has been subpar.

Allar has intrigued me but I'm still waiting for him to put it all together. He has the big frame talent evaluators love out of a typical pocket passer, he just needs the results to match.

My favorite of the group is Ewers. I love that he carved up Bama last year on the road, then did the same this year at Michigan. I expect him to light it up this week at Oklahoma, and am eagerly awaiting the matchup the following week against Georgia. I like that running is not a key part of his game, but he's athletic enough to make plays with his legs when needed.

I just hope we don't reach for someone and, instead, continue to bring in top talent at premier positions (Will Johnson, please!)

kartanoman

Quote from: MightyGiants on October 08, 2024, 08:43:22 AMI am eager to see how things play out.  This is literally the first time in his 6 year NFL career that he has all three pillars of QB support at NFL caliber.  In the past, he only had coaching (minus the Judge/Garrett years) with sub-standard protection and receiving targets.  It will be interesting to see how he does as he gets comfortable with the sort of support most successful QBs enjoy.

It's not to say he will thrive, but so far, things are looking good, and I wouldn't look to the past as a solid indicator of his future.

My biggest concern at this point is DJ's ability to stay healthy.  As the old saying goes, he risks writing checks his body can't cash.  He is too tough compared to his body's ability to absorb punishment.
Quote from: MightyGiants on October 08, 2024, 08:43:22 AMI am eager to see how things play out.  This is literally the first time in his 6 year NFL career that he has all three pillars of QB support at NFL caliber.  In the past, he only had coaching (minus the Judge/Garrett years) with sub-standard protection and receiving targets.  It will be interesting to see how he does as he gets comfortable with the sort of support most successful QBs enjoy.

It's not to say he will thrive, but so far, things are looking good, and I wouldn't look to the past as a solid indicator of his future.

My biggest concern at this point is DJ's ability to stay healthy.  As the old saying goes, he risks writing checks his body can't cash.  He is too tough compared to his body's ability to absorb punishment.

For now, given the "three pillars," as you very well stated, Jones is definitely doing "good;" however, he is certainly doing "better," in my opinion.

Daboll said it himself in the post-game press conference that he and the team used September to get a feel for certain things. Some were good while some were not. He captured lessons learned and have begun to implement changes, or work on different things, to try and get better. It might be standard coach-speak but it is the very right thing to say at this part of the season. Also, that he has not wavered on his assessment of his quarterback which, take it for better or worse, Jones is his guy and he'll ride the team's fortunes on his back.

We've analyzed the quarterback ad-nauseum and what we want and what the Giants have may not be the same thing. So, the coach is slowly mixing the plays around and, with starters out, it forces others to step up and be counted for. Jones responded very well under that circumstance this past weekend.

This coming weekend, the offense will have an opportunity to pick up from where they left off last week. They'll be able to generate offense against the Bengals' defense and, on the other side of the ball, the Bengals are a pass-happy offense (i.e. top-five throwing) while their running game is bottom-five.

Add to it the Giants have never lost at home in this series which makes it a promising matchup to see the team win back-to-back for the first time this season.

Let's see if they can pick it up from where they left off.

Peace!


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