- The Fallacy of the Franchise Quarterback -

[Giantleap56]

We haven't had a good coach since Coughlin left. The QB is a reflection of the coach and his style. Overall the Giants have been bad I don't think many QBs would thrive in this environment that the Giants have created.

A franchise QB can make a difference but it's not everything. You need a steady coach with a plan a good defense, good offensive line and a decent QB to win.

We have what is a coach with a wish list, a make shift Offensive Line and a porous defense that disappears after the giants score Almost guaranteed that they will give up points in the next possession. The bend but don't break defense is trash and that is what giants play.

As for QB I think Jones showed he can be clutch in 2022 he lead drives to finish games.

The Giants have lousy coach and after his fist 7 games has been awful. He doesn't coach what he has instead. That is the wish list coach always going to find someone to blame. It has been proven he is an offensive guru time and time again. You can't blame QB for an awful coach with an inability to get the best out of his team.

[Ed Vette]

Any excuse to meander off topic in pursuit of our grievances and personal conceits is quite literally business as usual for some and too often for too many. 

Cheers?

They wind up disappearing one day when we have had enough, and not surprisingly nobody misses them.