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NGT: Bo Nix just threw for 4 tds

Started by ralphpal1, November 17, 2024, 09:12:38 PM

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ralphpal1

Can you imagine having to explain why he wasn't good enough to draft
Now next year is the real idea how good he can be after they got and studied more tape on him
But he seems to be having a pretty good year
But one year does not make a QB

kingm56

I think @Ed Vette and I were the few that wanted Bo; now, to be fair, I wanted to trade back to get him, which wouldn't have been possible.  For me, it was either Daniel or Nix. 

Jclayton92

Quote from: ralphpal1 on November 17, 2024, 09:12:38 PMCan you imagine having to explain why he wasn't good enough to draft
Now next year is the real idea how good he can be after they got and studied more tape on him
But he seems to be having a pretty good year
But one year does not make a QB

He also has an Elite Offensive mind for a HC which can cover up a lot of warts.

spiderblue43

Yes..Payton has molded him extremely well ..and Nix has a ton of experience at the position from college. It shows you find the right fit with a skill set,the measurables aren't everything.

MightyGiants

Quote from: Jclayton92 on November 18, 2024, 12:04:06 AMHe also has an Elite Offensive mind for a HC which can cover up a lot of warts.

It's more than just an elite offensive mind; it's an elite head coach.  Elite head coaches draft a quarterback with a plan to develop them.  Lesser coaches do not.  Plus the Broncos had the best infrastructure around a rookie QB.

ALl that said, Nix is playing well.   Although, I wonder if fans would be happy.  Since the Giants have had Daniel Jones week after week, I have seen Daniel Jones compared with the elite quarterbacks.  Nix may prove to a solid NFL QB, but I am doubtful he will prove elite.   So would the team be happy with a middle-of-the-pack QB after 6 years of saying middle-pack QB was unacceptable?

Plus, it would have been harder to develop a quarterback without a number-one wide receiver like Nabers.
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MightyGiants

One other point.   Nix had a great game against a bad defense.  Overall, Nix is:

24th in PFF overall grade
21st in QBR
21st in QB rating
27th in EPA per pass
SMART, TOUGH, DEPENDABLE

EDjohnst1981

I'll be happy be more than happy with a rookie as a "middle of the pack" QB. They are cheap, you can use the saved money elsewhere.

I'm less happy with an experienced veteran as a middle of the pack QB, who was paid at the time as a top ten QB. Unless of course that vet is nothing more than a stop-gap to the new QB.


EDjohnst1981

Quote from: MightyGiants on November 18, 2024, 07:21:39 AMOne other point.   Nix had a great game against a bad defense.  Overall, Nix is:

24th in PFF overall grade
21st in QBR
21st in QB rating
27th in EPA per pass

Yes, it certainly helps when a QB can feast on a poor defence. That's for sure!

T200

Quote from: EDjohnst1981 on November 18, 2024, 07:23:21 AMYes, it certainly helps when a QB can feast on a poor defence. That's for sure!
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Ed Vette

Quote from: kingm56 on November 17, 2024, 09:16:07 PMI think @Ed Vette and I were the few that wanted Bo; now, to be fair, I wanted to trade back to get him, which wouldn't have been possible.  For me, it was either Daniel or Nix. 
I wanted a trade back too, but after three QB's went off, I wanted him more than McCarthy. I think they could have traded with Minnesota. Maybe Atlanta. But at that point, on draft day, I would have taken Nix over Nabors or happy with McCarthy.
"There is a greater purpose...that purpose is team. Winning, losing, playing hard, playing well, doing it for each other, winning the right way, winning the right way is a very important thing to me... Championships are won by teams who love one another, who respect one another, and play for and support one another."
~ Coach Tom Coughlin

Ed Vette

This kid will be Drew Brees 2.0. Not bad for a first year QB. He's gotten better every week. Schoen and Daboll were so enamored with Daniels that they went half hearted on Maye and the other guys probably weren't in the conversation.
"There is a greater purpose...that purpose is team. Winning, losing, playing hard, playing well, doing it for each other, winning the right way, winning the right way is a very important thing to me... Championships are won by teams who love one another, who respect one another, and play for and support one another."
~ Coach Tom Coughlin

uconnjack8

The progression he has made in year 1 is exactly what you want to see. 

On another note, what a difference in the competitiveness of the divisions.  Atlanta is chasing and NFC South title, Denver isn't in the conversation for division title and it looked like they were playing against a JV squad.

MrGap92

He is playing well, but at the same time not all QBs are equal, no telling if he would have been as good, better, or worse here.

He is doing a great job though.

Painter

Water Over or is it Under? But then when your own guy goes 24-44-1 in 5 1/2 seasons, it does kinda highlight our second-guessing skills.

Cheers!

MightyGiants

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