I want a real Right Tackle in this upcoming draft

[madbadger]

There are hits and misses every year. He was a pretty big miss but that doesn't mean they can't identify talent and make good picks.

Who uses the 7th pick overall on a lineman who refuses to do any of the combine drills? McKethan was a hot mess before being waived, Ezudu is only slightly better and so far JMS has been a failure. Any one can miss on a single draft pick but all four? They're clueless.

[T200]

Who uses the 7th pick overall on a lineman who refuses to do any of the combine drills? McKethan was a hot mess before being waived, Ezudu is only slightly better and so far JMS has been a failure. Any one can miss on a single draft pick but all four? They're clueless.

There are new scouts and a new offensive line coach. Hopefully they will be better at identifying real offensive line talent.

[brownelvis54]

My two cents, Jermaine Eluemunor is the starting right tackle and ideally will hold that position for the next 2-3 years. If Andrew Thomas is healthy, they have their starting tackles and the priority is to improve IOL and likely to identify a swing tackle in free agency. If AT is not healthy, then the priority is left tackle.

Doc on Feb 4, 2024 I made a thread called " The Perfect Free Agent to Revitalize Right Tackle" and it was all about Jermaine Eluemunor. It turned out the Giants did get him, good move. He is going to be 31 years old, If we fing a RT in the later rounds, He could sit and learn, he would have the benefit of learning in practices and if Jermaine gets hurt or leaves when his contract is up, we hopefully have a replacement, without having to overpay a FA

[Doc16LT56]

Doc on Feb 4, 2024 I made a thread called " The Perfect Free Agent to Revitalize Right Tackle" and it was all about Jermaine Eluemunor. It turned out the Giants did get him, good move. He is going to be 31 years old, If we fing a RT in the later rounds, He could sit and learn, he would have the benefit of learning in practices and if Jermaine gets hurt or leaves when his contract is up, we hopefully have a replacement, without having to overpay a FA

Later rounds? Absolutely! Keep mining for depth in the later rounds. In the first three rounds, I would want potential immediate starters/contributors (exception being the QB position).

Good call on the JE thread last year!

[madbadger]

There are new scouts and a new offensive line coach. Hopefully they will be better at identifying real offensive line talent.

Love your optimism. As long as Mara and McDonell are still active in personnel decisions I don't expect anything to change. Classic case of being born on third base and thinking they hit a triple.

[T200]

Love your optimism. As long as Mara and McDonell are still active in personnel decisions I don't expect anything to change. Classic case of being born on third base and thinking they hit a triple.

Without optimism, what's the point in continuing to follow one team? No one stays on top forever.

I have no way of knowing for sure but I get the sense that Schoen will be taking more control this offseason and shutting down the outside voices.

[brownelvis54]

Projected as a 3rd round. Ajani Cornelius Right Tackle Highlights

the guy pauses the video too much for me.

[Gman329]

I'm OK with Eluemunor at RT. I'd be more inclined to find a Guard. 

[brownelvis54]

I'm OK with Eluemunor at RT. I'd be more inclined to find a Guard. 

This guy is likely a 3rd rounder. Giants problem is no depth, this pick would help us, what happens if Eluemunor goes down?

[gregf]

If AT did not have reliability concerns, I'd be happy with our tackles and Phillips as the swing and drafting a guard With AT a concern, I'd like to draft a tackle in round 2 or 3 that can start at Right Tackle, Elumenor to guard, then move to LT if AT goes down.

[madbadger]

Without optimism, what's the point in continuing to follow one team? No one stays on top forever.

I have no way of knowing for sure but I get the sense that Schoen will be taking more control this offseason and shutting down the outside voices.

You're right that no one stays on top forever but there are some franchises that seem to wallow in the filth year after year. We are quickly becoming bedfellows with the Jets, Browns and Raiders. Nothings gonna change with those two guys intimately involved.

[Philosophers]

I dont want to hear the word "enormous" associated with a future ORT.  I want "fast laterally."  Fact is this position will always be someone weighing 310 pounds or more and Edge rushers there are max 280 but very fast.  I want their speed neutralized by speed.

[killarich]

I'm OK with Eluemunor at RT. I'd be more inclined to find a Guard. 

I also agree... issue with the O-line is Depth as well as health and I guess we can use a new RG especially if Van Rotten is let go


But when healthy the O-line looked decent... even JMS


First round should def not be used on a lineman

If we do get a RT then Elumenor goes to RG ... which isn't terrible I guess... but we have so many more pressing issues on this team

[DaveBrown74]

Without optimism, what's the point in continuing to follow one team?

I think this is a very interesting question and is worthy of some reflection.

I certainly get the point and would never dream of being critical of a fan who prefers to always take the glass half full approach and believe things are about to get better. Not only is there nothing wrong with that, but I can understand the appeal of it or, at the absolute least, the psychological rationale of that base stance.

To answer the "what's the point" question though: I think Giants fans who are pessimistic have plenty of justifiable reason to be, and I think some of us like to be realistic about things while maintaining the hope that things will eventually get better, which they generally do, in time. You also leave yourself the possibility of being pleasantly surprised.

In short, being realistically pessimistic about the near term state of affairs, in my mind at least, is not mutually exclusive with being a fan. It doesn't mean you don't want things to get better. It just means you don't see it happening very imminently, and you're longing for a time when they start to.

[T200]

I think this is a very interesting question and is worthy of some reflection.

I certainly get the point and would never dream of being critical of a fan who prefers to always take the glass half full approach and believe things are about to get better. Not only is there nothing wrong with that, but I can understand the appeal of it or, at the absolute least, the psychological rationale of that base stance.

To answer the "what's the point" question though: I think Giants fans who are pessimistic have plenty of justifiable reason to be, and I think some of us like to be realistic about things while maintaining the hope that things will eventually get better, which they generally do, in time. You also leave yourself the possibility of being pleasantly surprised.

In short, being realistically pessimistic about the near term state of affairs, in my mind at least, is not mutually exclusive with being a fan. It doesn't mean you don't want things to get better. It just means you don't see it happening very imminently, and you're longing for a time when they start to.

Good post and thoughts, Jeff.

I understand, for the most part, why some folks are pessimistic.

I get being down on players, coaches, front office, owner, or the team as a whole. We all have moments we need to vent.

AZGIANTFAN has it perfectly in his signature: "I'd rather be a disappointed optimist than a vindicated pessimist."

At some point, the pessimists have hope or they wouldn't be here, right?