2025 NFL QB market

[Jclayton92]

J: Another angle on your point, which I agree with, is that one or both above us trade down for more picks, knowing that one or the other QB will still be there at least until Pick Seven (IMO).

Along this same line of thinking, it is absolutely crucial for the Giants to appear VERY interested in both QB's (I'm hoping and assuming they're not interested in either with Pick Three). Keeping that secret will produce the result I'm most hoping for... both teams ahead of us stay put and pick QB's.

By the way, someone just asked me, so I'll ask you: if you had to take either Graham (Michigan) or Hunter (Colorado) which player is better for the Giants, considering all the details of their current situation?

Bob

I take Hunter as I think it's more of a need currently filling CB1 and WR2. If I'm being honest though I take Johnson before Hunter or Graham. I think Graham is a luxury with the invest we already have in Lawrence, Burns, and thibs. I think we can get a great nt/dt in the 2nd.

[Bob In PA]

I think we can get a great nt/dt in the 2nd.

J: You're right, but there are few (maybe none) like Graham. And playing at Michigan, no one faced a higher level of competition this past season than the Michigan group. Bob

[MrGap92]

J: You're right, but there are few (maybe none) like Graham. And playing at Michigan, no one faced a higher level of competition this past season than the Michigan group. Bob

I'd rather have Deone Walker in Round 2.

[MightyGiants]

https://x.com/MikeGarafolo/status/1879252882782028229

[Jclayton92]

J: You're right, but there are few (maybe none) like Graham. And playing at Michigan, no one faced a higher level of competition this past season than the Michigan group. Bob

I think a Walter nolen or Alfred Collins in the 2nd would be solid value if you get a will Johnson or hunter in the 1st.

[T200]

This year's situation is there are currently only two QBs worthy of first-round selection.  So your point about drafting a different QB, is not really relevant.  The only thing relevant in this discussion is if teams with a major need at QB will pass on one of the only two prospects considered first-round worthy. 

To the idea that we can recreate the Bo Nix development situation with the Giants and prove other teams wrong, I do not like my odds.

I suspect a more relevant situation may be when multiple QB-needy teams passed on Kenny Picketts, allowing the Steelers to draft him 20th overall. 

Look, I am not suggesting that the staffs of the Browns and Titans (and presumably teams that potentially would trade up) are perfect and that having one fall to three means there is no chance the QB prospect will develop into an NFL franchise QB.  I am merely suggesting that the events that are required to happen to allow the Giants to draft one of them would suggests the odds of success are lower than normal.

I think you're missing what I'm responding to.

Let's just move on.

[MightyGiants]

I came across some pretty good scouting reports. I can't speak to the author's credentials, but the reports (I looked at some of his last year reports that seemed pretty on point) seem well done, and are certainly detailed.  Here are the ones he has done so far.

Sanders:

https://substack.com/home/post/p-154101339

Ward:

https://substack.com/home/post/p-153788222


Dart:

https://backseatscout.substack.com/p/2025-nfl-draft-quarterback-scouting-8fc

You can also check him out on Reddit

https://old.reddit.com/user/Backseat_Scout/submitted/#res:ner-page=6

[Bob In PA]

I'd rather have Deone Walker in Round 2.

Mr G: I am not downgrading the level of SEC competition, but Michigan had a very tough schedule too.

So you think Walker in the 2nd is a better way to spend our first two picks than taking Graham in round 1.

OK, that can make sense with a good pick in round 1. Which player are you hoping for most in round 1?

Bob

[MrGap92]

Mr G: I am not downgrading the level of SEC competition, but Michigan had a very tough schedule too.

So you think Walker in the 2nd is a better way to spend our first two picks than taking Graham in round 1.

OK, that can make sense with a good pick in round 1. Which player are you hoping for most in round 1?

Bob

If it is not a QB, I would say Will Johnson, I think he is a better pure corner to Hunter and has better size.

Travis Hunter would be my second choice.

Trade down options I would like: Josh Simmons, Tre Harris, Trey Amos

Round 2 other guys I'd be looking at: Maxwell Hairston, Jaxson Dart, Tate Ratledge, Donovan Ezeiruaku, Josaiah Stewart

Adding Will Johnson + Deone Walker as a combo to this defense would be nasty.

[Jclayton92]

Walkers tape popped a lot more as a sophomore than it did this year. That may be because the Kentucky team got raided but yeah Walkers tape was better as a sophomore while Alfred Collins came out of nowhere this year and blew up. While Nolen was the number 1 transfer prospect, number 1 high school recruit etc his numbers don't pop but he's the definition of a true disruptor that makes everyone around him elite. He got the 3 other dlinemen on his line paid/drafted this year.

[Jclayton92]

Also is it just me or does the Giants Chat sport youtube channel always do daily videos that seem to be picked from our threads.

[MightyGiants]

Former GM talks QB prospects

[coggs]

I'd rather have Deone Walker in Round 2.

This is where the high stakes poker comes into play.  On one hand you can say Graham because you think he is the best player on the board.  However, on the other you can say you want Johnson (for example) because you feel you can get Walker in the 2nd round and the drop-off from Graham to Walker is not as great as the drop-off from Johnson to say Rivel or Everette.  Or for the math types, Johnson+Walker > Graham + Rivel.

[MightyGiants]

One prospect Ric Spielman says is impressing him lately is ND's Riley Leonard.   He has been impressed by what he has seen from him in the playoffs.