Mistake 1A - Thibs/Neal; Mistake 2A - Eze/McKethan

[Philosophers]

When drafting at 5 and 7 of the first eound, you have to nail your picks.  Thibs is not good enough to warrant the 5th selection.  Neal is a flat out bust.

Why are Eze/McKethan mistake 2A when thye were later round drafts?  Both have delivered nothing as far as making the OL better.  They are failed starters and ineffective backups.  If a later round draft pick starts and is average a team scored with that pick.  If the pick is not a good backup it's a swing and a miss.

What is a hig reason the Giants are terrible?  Three failed OL picks.

Let's add JMS potentially to this list as he is looking like an inadequate starter.

What is the problem?  Do the Giants pay too much attention to "likable" players who fit their culture but have big shortcomings in talent as football players?  Maybe that is the problem.

[WheresDayne]

If memory serves me correctly, Dallas had Thibs and Neal as their top picks.  They seem to draft well, especially Oline.  I think this is just one of those horrible instances where the Giants were doomed from the start.
A second thought is that maybe we are just very poor at developing talent and Thibs and Neal would be much better had the Cowboys drafted them   

[MightyGiants]

If memory serves me correctly, Dallas had Thibs and Neal as their top picks.  They seem to draft well, especially Oline.  I think this is just one of those horrible instances where the Giants were doomed from the start.
A second thought is that maybe we are just very poor at developing talent and Thibs and Neal would be much better had the Cowboys drafted them   

Dallas drafts well AND develops talent well.  That said, no one bats a thousand when it comes to scouting players.  If you bat over.500 you are considered brilliant in that line of work.

[MrGap92]

Kinda hard to consider a 6th round pick a mistake, expectations for those players are usually pretty low.

Eze I agree, while solid as a backup, not a starting caliber G

[Philosophers]

Kinda hard to consider a 6th round pick a mistake, expectations for those players are usually pretty low.

Eze I agree, while solid as a backup, not a starting caliber G

I dont think Eze is a solid backup.  A 6th round pick rarely makes a good team but when you are a bottom dwellar like the Giants, a 6th round pick has to make the team and contribute.  Bottom means team talent is low.

[Jolly Blue Giant]

I give them a pass on Eze and McKethan as it was their first draft with almost zero time to prepare. All they knew was that the offensive line was a disaster. I believe that every single team in the NFL would have taken Thibs and Neal if they were in the same spot in the draft order as the Giants. The track record of early picks failing to live up to expectations is a mile long. Luck still plays a big part in successful drafts. At least they appear to have hit on Wan'Dale and I haven't totally given up on Bellinger and Belton

As for their second draft, I thought they had hit a home run on Banks, but overall, I think the draft fell short of expectations. I don't know what's up with Banks, but I hope he shakes off his sophomore year and gets back to business (maybe it was the sudden riches, I don't f'n know...frustrating). I believe JMS will become a mainstay on the line for years to come, though. But that pretty much sums up that draft

For their third draft - they finally struck gold across the board IMHO

Their fourth draft will determine Schoen and Dab's future, as well as the team's future. It will take a bit of luck to finally fill the QB position. Let us pray

[jgrangers2]

When drafting at 5 and 7 of the first eound, you have to nail your picks.  Thibs is not good enough to warrant the 5th selection.  Neal is a flat out bust.

Why are Eze/McKethan mistake 2A when thye were later round drafts?  Both have delivered nothing as far as making the OL better.  They are failed starters and ineffective backups.  If a later round draft pick starts and is average a team scored with that pick.  If the pick is not a good backup it's a swing and a miss.

What is a hig reason the Giants are terrible?  Three failed OL picks.

Let's add JMS potentially to this list as he is looking like an inadequate starter.

What is the problem?  Do the Giants pay too much attention to "likable" players who fit their culture but have big shortcomings in talent as football players?  Maybe that is the problem.

Problem is that "nailing your picks" is easier said than done. As others have mentioned, Thibs and Neal were consensus top 10 picks. They would have likely gone in the next few picks if the Giants passed on them and been a disappointment for somebody else. That's just how it goes sometimes.

[Philosophers]

Problem is that "nailing your picks" is easier said than done. As others have mentioned, Thibs and Neal were consensus top 10 picks. They would have likely gone in the next few picks if the Giants passed on them and been a disappointment for somebody else. That's just how it goes sometimes.

Consensus by who?  Draftniks and Media?  We have no idea what all the other teams thought of Thibs or Neal.  This assumption that all the teams valued them there is speculation at best.

I would bet teams of some unknown amount would have passed.