News:

Moderation Team: Vette, babywhales, Bob In PA, gregf, bighitterdalama, beaugestus, T200

Owner: MightyGiants

Link To Live Chat

Mastodon

Main Menu

If you had to give up extra draft capital for a QB, which one?

Started by MightyGiants, February 21, 2025, 01:29:57 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

If you had to give up extra draft capital for a QB who would it be?

MightyGiants

At this point in time, there only seems to be one QB prospect in the draft that has the ceiling of a good to really good franchise QB, and that's Cam Ward.  It's likely the Giants would have to trade up to be able to draft Cam Ward.  The other franchise QB that potentially may be available would be Matt Stafford via trade.

So if you wanted the Giants to make give up draft capital (and keep in mind that Stafford would also cost major cap space) which would you prefer?
SMART, TOUGH, DEPENDABLE

andrew_nyGiants

From Simms to Eli (with an assist from Hoss) our Super Bowl Quarterbacks. Great defense and clutch QB performances...NY Giants Championship football.

I have an old profile still floating around: andrew_nyg....I am one and the same!

MightyGiants

SMART, TOUGH, DEPENDABLE

MrGap92

It's just hard for me to call a QB pushing 40, a franchise QB, especially on a new team.

That is no discredit to his talent or accomplishments.

MightyGiants

Quote from: MrGap92 on February 21, 2025, 01:50:00 PMIt's just hard for me to call a QB pushing 40, a franchise QB, especially on a new team.

That is no discredit to his talent or accomplishments.

He is clearly playing like a franchise QB up to the end of this past season (although some seem to note a slight decline in his play near the end of the season).  I think it's reasonable to assume the Giants could get franchise-caliber QB play for one to two years if they were to make this trade.
SMART, TOUGH, DEPENDABLE

MrGap92

Quote from: MightyGiants on February 21, 2025, 01:55:50 PMHe is clearly playing like a franchise QB up to the end of this past season (although some seem to note a slight decline in his play near the end of the season).  I think it's reasonable to assume the Giants could get franchise-caliber QB play for one to two years if they were to make this trade.

I don't disagree with you on his level of play etc

To me "franchise QB" isn't just a skill level, there has to be some level of duration to it too, not just a 1-2 year rental at best. He'll never be remembered as a Giant when he wraps it up, most will look at his tenures in Detroit and LA.

DaveBrown74

Definitely neither. We are not a QB away (or close) and can't be giving up premium draft capital for anyone right now, particularly in a year that is not seen to be offering any legitimately elite QBs.

That said, if "neither" weren't an option I'd pick Ward. Two basic reasons:

(1) He's not 37 and seemingly in decline (or, at best, about to be in decline)

(2) Ward will be on a rookie contract. Stafford will command a big time guarantee and a big time AAV for multiple years.



andrew_nyGiants

The problem is the OL still isn't fixed, so to bring in a 37 yr old who looked mortal when the Rams OL suffered injuries....I think would just be throwing more trash in the dumpster.
From Simms to Eli (with an assist from Hoss) our Super Bowl Quarterbacks. Great defense and clutch QB performances...NY Giants Championship football.

I have an old profile still floating around: andrew_nyg....I am one and the same!

sooners56

The answer is Ward. By all accounts he has the highest ceiling. Which makes him worth the gamble of giving up picks for him. Sheduer is deemed safer but not necessarily a star player so not worthy of additional picks. Stafford won't do anything for the Giants but allow them to win a few more games than last season, making it harder to get a franchise QB in 2026 or 2027. Also, Stafford is in decline and likely can't be counted on playing all 17 games.
Ain't nothing to it but to do it!

katkavage

Quote from: MightyGiants on February 21, 2025, 01:55:50 PMHe is clearly playing like a franchise QB up to the end of this past season (although some seem to note a slight decline in his play near the end of the season).  I think it's reasonable to assume the Giants could get franchise-caliber QB play for one to two years if they were to make this trade.
Stafford is very talented. A franchise QB to be sure. But he has a gifted head coach and an excellent coaching staff around him. The same can not be said about the Giants current situation. It would end badly for all involved though Stafford will pocket some nice change while struggling here.

MightyGiants

Quote from: katkavage on February 21, 2025, 03:39:42 PMStafford is very talented. A franchise QB to be sure. But he has a gifted head coach and an excellent coaching staff around him. The same can not be said about the Giants current situation. It would end badly for all involved though Stafford will pocket some nice change while struggling here.

Plus, it's easier to play football in December and January in LA and the west than it is in the cold, wet, and windy meadowlands
SMART, TOUGH, DEPENDABLE

Hadron

The Giants aren't close to competing. While I love Stafford as a player, he's not going to provide the return you want with a player of his declining skill level. Don't get me wrong: he can still sling that rock but is he good enough to carry this team? I doubt it.

Cam Ward - I liked last year's QB class more than 2025's class. At best, is better than any of the QBs drafted in the first round of 2024? Caleb Williams? Jayden? Maye? Penix? Nix? McCarthy is a wild card due to injury.

Rosehill Jimmy

Neither. I would be ok with Ward at #3 but I wouldn't relinquish draft capital to move up
"It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing"

madbadger

I voted neither. If Ward is available at 3 that would be my preference but we have to build a roster and I don't think anyone if worth give up additional picks to draft.

Jclayton92

I wonder if the Giants are putting out all the Stafford smoke because they don't like the Qb class. If they don't get either then the narrative is, well at least they didn't give up a 1st for Stafford, or at least they didn't draft a weak qb etc.