NGT - Preliminary Fantasy Football Thoughts For ‘25 Season

[Philosophers]

Ok here is the spot to share your thoughts for this upcoming season.

Some questions I am pondering:

Does Travis Hunter help or hurt Brian Thomas' fantasy points?

Does Nabers explode with some level of better QB play?

What second year WRs leap up such as Keon Coleman?

Knowing Jim Harbaugh/Greg Roman want to go run heavy, is Omarion Hampton a strong RB1?

Who has a better year in fantasy, Tyler Warren or Colston Loveland?  Warren has poor QBs and Loveland has many competitors to catch Caleb Williams throws.

Will Skatteboo rack up TDs as goal line back and get enough yards to be say an RB3?

Will any of the rookie WRs be breakout players?  Last year I predicted Brian Thomas but failed on Keon Coleman.

[Jclayton92]

For rookie Wrs I'm looking at

Tre Harris, The Chargers/Harbaugh finally have their X Wr.

Jimmy Horn Jr, there has been more talk about him in Panthers camp than Tetairoa McMillan.

As far as Hunter, the Jaguars are acting like he has a ways to go on offense and might not get as many reps as you think.

No rookie Qb is going to start besides Ward, everything I am hearing is that the Browns are planning to start Kenny Pickett and there is an outside chance Watson is ready to start the season. They haven't closed that door yet.

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[MightyGiants]

Ok here is the spot to share your thoughts for this upcoming season.

Some questions I am pondering:

Does Travis Hunter help or hurt Brian Thomas' fantasy points?

If anything, maybe it hurts, but not by much

Does Nabers explode with some level of better QB play?

I expect improvement, but he had a really good rookie season, so I am not sure you will an explosion

What second year WRs leap up such as Keon Coleman?

Knowing Jim Harbaugh/Greg Roman want to go run heavy, is Omarion Hampton a strong RB1?

I don't know about number one, but top 3 (along with Barkley and Jeanty)
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Who has a better year in fantasy, Tyler Warren or Colston Loveland?  Warren has poor QBs and Loveland has many competitors to catch Caleb Williams throws.

Will Skatteboo rack up TDs as goal line back and get enough yards to be say an RB3?

I am not sure about goal line, but I think he could be the RB getting the most carries by midseason.

Will any of the rookie WRs be breakout players?  Last year I predicted Brian Thomas but failed on Keon Coleman.

Maybe, but who will be anyone's guess

[ralphpal1]

Someone pointed out that BJ Thomas got most of his catches and yards with the backup QB ( the ones the pats drafted)
That is something to look out for

[Jclayton92]

If I've never played fantasy but want to jump in, what is the best way to do so? Do we do a league here?

[MrGap92]

Brian Thomas will be fine.

Kirk, Davis, and Engram are all out. Hunter and going to replace 3 guys.

[Philosophers]

If I've never played fantasy but want to jump in, what is the best way to do so? Do we do a league here?

You can join a public ESPN league.  Costs nothing.  The ESPN ones I do give each person (usually 12 people) $200 as a budget to construct your team and you bid for players.  Super fub.  I can walk you through some basic strategies later.

[Jclayton92]

You can join a public ESPN league.  Costs nothing.  The ESPN ones I do give each person (usually 12 people) $200 as a budget to construct your team and you bid for players.  Super fub.  I can walk you through some basic strategies later.

Awesome I appreciate it 👊

[Philosophers]

I have been spending some time thinking about the upcoming fantasy football season.  I always do drafts with a $200 budget to pick players.  I am leaning more n doing something radical for me which is to allocate a budget % to drafting 2 high volume WRs but going with 4 rookie RBs.  I think this season some rookies will break out to have big years (both rushing and receiving).  What I can save on capital for RBs I can put toward WRs and hope I find a Brian Thomas type breakout but at RB.

[ralphpal1]

First thing is look at your scoring system
Many people tell.you pick kickers and defense last but they can help you win
Remember 2 years ago the Dallas Def had the. Most point the First 8 games over anyone else. Even QBs
They were getting about 20 to.40 points per game

[DaveBrown74]

I haven't done any deep dive work into fantasy yet (usually don't think about it much until mid July or so at the earliest and often not really until early August), but a few general thoughts I have:

(1) I really want an elite tight end this year. It makes such a huge difference if you have one. It's also the one position where if you're weak at it, it's the hardest to address in a meaningful way because there is such a scarcity of very good ones. If I can't get Bowers or McBride, I'm going to aim to take one of the rookies and then take someone relatively safely decent later. Rookie TEs suddenly are making more of an impact than they used to, so if I don't get one of the big two or possibly LaPorta, that's probably the direction I'll go in this year.

(2) I'm waiting on QB this year. I'd rather use my first six or seven picks on position players and just go with a Goff, Purdy, Nix, etc. I think that's better than burning a high pick on a bigger name and then ending up really thin at one of the flex positions.

(3) As for second year receivers, the three best are ones who are already huge names and will go in the first two rounds: Nabers, Thomas, and McConkey. Those don't eally count as they're fully priced already. In terms of potential breakout candidates, Odunze, Pearsall, and Worthy are all on my radar. Deep sleeper types in this category include Malachi Corley, Malik Washington, Jordan Whittington, and Roman Wilson.

(4) In a mock I was looking at, Justin Herbert was QB13. While I get that Harbaugh likes to run the ball, I really think that's value. That O line looks legit, and they've added some quality weapons there. He's just too talented to not deliver a big year again soon. He's my favorite QB that seems to be going in the round 10 or later type range. I mentioned guys like Goff and Purdy but they're going earlier. I think Herbert is value back where he is going so far in these early mocks.

[Philosophers]

I haven't done any deep dive work into fantasy yet (usually don't think about it much until mid July or so at the earliest and often not really until early August), but a few general thoughts I have:

(1) I really want an elite tight end this year. It makes such a huge difference if you have one. It's also the one position where if you're weak at it, it's the hardest to address in a meaningful way because there is such a scarcity of very good ones. If I can't get Bowers or McBride, I'm going to aim to take one of the rookies and then take someone relatively safely decent later. Rookie TEs suddenly are making more of an impact than they used to, so if I don't get one of the big two or possibly LaPorta, that's probably the direction I'll go in this year.

(2) I'm waiting on QB this year. I'd rather use my first six or seven picks on position players and just go with a Goff, Purdy, Nix, etc. I think that's better than burning a high pick on a bigger name and then ending up really thin at one of the flex positions.

(3) As for second year receivers, the three best are ones who are already huge names and will go in the first two rounds: Nabers, Thomas, and McConkey. Those don't eally count as they're fully priced already. In terms of potential breakout candidates, Odunze, Pearsall, and Worthy are all on my radar. Deep sleeper types in this category include Malachi Corley, Malik Washington, Jordan Whittington, and Roman Wilson.

(4) In a mock I was looking at, Justin Herbert was QB13. While I get that Harbaugh likes to run the ball, I really think that's value. That O line looks legit, and they've added some quality weapons there. He's just too talented to not deliver a big year again soon. He's my favorite QB that seems to be going in the round 10 or later type range. I mentioned guys like Goff and Purdy but they're going earlier. I think Herbert is value back where he is going so far in these early mocks.

What is full value varies?  I wont bid $80 for Chase but if I can get say Nabers at $65 I'd do it as I think he has more upside with a new QB.

Your thoughts on Herbert make sense.  U want a mobile QB as I want those extra points I can get in the ground with him.  I have had Patrick Mahommes two years in a row and he does not produce like say Lamar Jackson in points.

Both top rookie TEs look good but they both have risk.  Warren has no QB.  Loveland is colpeting against a lot of WRs plus Kmet.  I'd gamble on Loveland because the head coach turned LaPorta i to a star when he was OC.  Is there another rookie TE you are considering?

[ralphpal1]

Just remember the draft helps but what really wins your league are your pickups during the week
Which I usually get wrong

[DaveBrown74]

Just remember the draft helps but what really wins your league are your pickups during the week
Which I usually get wrong

I think both are important but to me what really wins your league is hitting big on two or three picks between rounds 6 and 11 or so. It's about the Brian Thomas Jr, Ladd McConkey, and Bucky Irving type picks. Those are league winning picks. Obviously it goes without saying you can't have any glaring mishaps in the first four rounds either.

No doubt pickups matter too, not suggesting otherwise. As do lineup decisions each week and understanding matchups. But to me what really wins leagues are finding those gems after the 5th or 6th round. I've been in my main league for a good 20 years. Everyone in the league knows a lot about the NFL. Each year the winner nails some of these mid to later picks. Without fail. Owners who go with all chalk never finish better than 4th.

[Philosophers]

I think both are important but to me what really wins your league is hitting big on two or three picks between rounds 6 and 11 or so. It's about the Brian Thomas Jr, Ladd McConkey, and Bucky Irving type picks. Those are league winning picks. Obviously it goes without saying you can't have any glaring mishaps in the first four rounds either.

No doubt pickups matter too, not suggesting otherwise. As do lineup decisions each week and understanding matchups. But to me what really wins leagues are finding those gems after the 5th or 6th round. I've been in my main league for a good 20 years. Everyone in the league knows a lot about the NFL. Each year the winner nails some of these mid to later picks. Without fail. Owners who go with all chalk never finish better than 4th.

Yes and not listening to Andrew or Bama when they tell you drafting a non-starting TE may not be the right move.  😂