NFT- MLB has moved All Star Game out of Atlanta

[uconnjack8]

I also think Gun background check laws should be universal across the US. As you know, NJ is among the strictest in the nation and we had to get not only a background check but fingerprinted and we have to apply for a permit to purchase in a 90 day window. My brother just goes to the store, they do a check and he walks away with his new toy. Other states have open carry or concealed. I like the idea of one ID with the ability to add applications like we do adding a motorcycle endorsement to our license.

That should certainly be possible in the digital age.

My brother, an ex-marine had about a 6 month period to be able to carry. 

When I lived in Maine, if I wanted to buy a gun to keep in the house, I could have bought if from a friend or a classified ad without a background check.  Only gun dealers in Maine have to do background checks (If I remember correct). 

I have to admit, I liked that when I bough a pistol here in PA, it was a pretty simple process with the background check. 

[Ed Vette]

MLB is moving the All Star game to Colorado. Colorado has 2 less early voting days than Georgia. MLB Commissioner Manfred has not said if he will give up his membership to Augusta National, also in Georgia. The voting odds are against it.

This one is going to have to be detail explained to me. They can do whatever it is they want as far as I'm concerned as it's their gig but I'm not seeing the justification moving it to a state that requires a photo ID to vote in person. Atlanta losing 100mm will have an adverse effect on the poor in that State where the per capita income is 14K less.

[PSUBeirut]

Honestly asking the conservatives here- would a national or federal registration system for voting inspire more or less trust in elections in today's political climate?  My gut tells me there are too many conspiracy theorists out there that would make this idea DOA.

I'm thinking most of the conservatives here are of the same cloth as actual Republicans- reasonable folks with actual policy positions. Not the new Rs who are unfortunately dominating the party at the moment. As a former R myself I just want to say I appreciate the conversation.

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[Ed Vette]

Honestly asking the conservatives here- would a national or federal registration system for voting inspire more or less trust in elections in today's political climate?  My gut tells me there are too many conspiracy theorists out there that would make this idea DOA.

I'm thinking most of the conservatives here are of the same cloth as actual Republicans- reasonable folks with actual policy positions. Not the new Rs who are unfortunately dominating the party at the moment. As a former R myself I just want to say I appreciate the conversation.

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Why would it be DOA? I'm a former Republican too now Independent although I have never voted down a party line.

[Philosophers]

Why would it be DOA? I'm a former Republican too now Independent although I have never voted down a party line.

I do not believe they would trust a national registration system because in general today's Right simply does not trust the actions of a government.  They'll think the Government will use this information in some insidious way against them.  It's the same reason, they didn't trust a national databank for individual healthcare information so all the patients have their medical history/info stored in one vast place that can be accessed by doctors when needed to evaluate a patient.  Think about how much easier that would be if you go to one physicial specialist not affiliated with say the doctor's you normally go to so he has no ability to see past X rays, MRIs, histories of physicals, etc.  All he can do is ask you questions unless you brought all that info which 99% of patients don't personally have.

[Ed Vette]

I do not believe they would trust a national registration system because in general today's Right simply does not trust the actions of a government.  They'll think the Government will use this information in some insidious way against them.  It's the same reason, they didn't trust a national databank for individual healthcare information so all the patients have their medical history/info stored in one vast place that can be accessed by doctors when needed to evaluate a patient.  Think about how much easier that would be if you go to one physicial specialist not affiliated with say the doctor's you normally go to so he has no ability to see past X rays, MRIs, histories of physicals, etc.  All he can do is ask you questions unless you brought all that info which 99% of patients don't personally have.

Ok I can understand that thinking.


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[Philosophers]

Ok I can understand that thinking.


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At the end of the day, it's about trust and many in today's Right do not trust.  The Right which is predominantly white middle/upper middle class think for example that they will lose out in their way of life to immigrants.  It is not a new theme.  The Capital Riots are not new to American History.  In the 1840s, native Protestants rioted against Irish Catholic immigrants.  In the early 1900s, the KKK rioted against Italian Catholics.  I was in a Starbucks in Savannah, Georgia one day a few years ago.  Two young adults, probably in their early 20s (man and woman) came in to get a cup of coffee and each was carrying a pistol strapped to their waist.  I went up to them and asked them why they felt the need to wear those guns inside the Starbucks.  They told me that they didn't trust if there was some sort of crime that they would be protected by the police or anyone so they were taking matters into their own hands.  That example perfectly describes the lack of trust among a huge segment of the population.  It's a genuine paranoia but it's a real problem.  Same thing with not trusting U.S. Government "databases."  They simply don't trust.   

[Bob In PA]

I do not believe they would trust a national registration system because in general today's Right simply does not trust the actions of a government.  They'll think the Government will use this information in some insidious way against them.  It's the same reason, they didn't trust a national databank for individual healthcare information so all the patients have their medical history/info stored in one vast place that can be accessed by doctors when needed to evaluate a patient.  Think about how much easier that would be if you go to one physicial specialist not affiliated with say the doctor's you normally go to so he has no ability to see past X rays, MRIs, histories of physicals, etc.  All he can do is ask you questions unless you brought all that info which 99% of patients don't personally have.

Phil: I don't think assigning each person registered with Social Security Administration a separate Voter ID number would have any of the problems you just outlined.  If you think of one, write back. 

Such numbers would be as "confidential" as the Social Security number each person already has.... one per person.... i.e., one man, one vote.

Knowing a person's Voter ID number would not have the privacy ramifications as snooping into a person's health records.  This, I think, is what people don't like about a national health database.

Bob

[Philosophers]

Phil: I don't think assigning each person registered with Social Security Administration a separate Voter ID number would have any of the problems you just outlined.  If you think of one, write back. 

Such numbers would be as "confidential" as the Social Security number each person already has.... one per person.... i.e., one man, one vote.

Knowing a person's Voter ID number would not have the privacy ramifications as snooping into a person's health records.  This, I think, is what people don't like about a national health database.

Bob

I agree 100% with you about that Bob, but that should also apply to national registration of medical info.  You can't trust one but not trust the other.  We have to trust it will remain confidential and not be used harmfully against them.   

[Bob In PA]

I agree 100% with you about that Bob, but that should also apply to national registration of medical info.  You can't trust one but not trust the other.  We have to trust it will remain confidential and not be used harmfully against them.   

Phil: I know, but the worst that can happen with a voter ID is someone votes instead of you. 

One example of bad that can happen if someone hacks into a national health database is this: I announce I'm running for President. You hack into my records and discover that I had a certain type of hepatitis.

You put an ad on the TV stating that I'm a slime-bucket who probably used a dirty needle injecting illegal drugs and got hepatitis.  Now I have to explain away your accusation, regardless of whether it's true or false.

Bob

[Philosophers]

Phil: I know, but the worst that can happen with a voter ID is someone votes instead of you. 

One example of bad that can happen if someone hacks into a national health database is this: I announce I'm running for President. You hack into my records and discover that I had a certain type of hepatitis.

You put an ad on the TV stating that I'm a slime-bucket who probably used a dirty needle injecting illegal drugs and got hepatitis.  Now I have to explain away your accusation, regardless of whether it's true or false.

Bob

Someone can hack into a voter registration system and steal confidential personal info about a person.  Again, in your example, you have to trust that the system will prevail and that in the end it makes the lives of everyone better.  Yoru example is pretty extreme and if you are worried about extremes, then I think it crosses over to the unrealistic and becomes paranoia instead.  Do you know how much redundant medical costs there are because a doctor say in an Urgent Care examines you and takes an X ray and says you may have a crack in a bone in say your elbow joint, then you go to a major medical center like the Cleveland Clinic to meet with an orthopedic specialist and he does not have your X ray so he has to take another one. 

[Painter]

120 pieces of legislation in 43 States related to ballot and voter eligibility all introduced by Republicans following Trump's defeat and the purple bruise they suffered in the Red State of Georgia, and not at any time before. That also is despite the fact that the most thorough post-election audits ever by State and Federal agencies and private entities concluded that there was no meaningful voter fraud in the past election.

While it should be obvious to any honest, clear thinking person that, having the motive, the GOP is pursuing the opportunity to make it harder for poorer people and minority communities to vote. What also is obvious is that there are those who recognize the fact but can't accept it and so must embrace a web of conspiracies. if they must, it's their sad problem, but they shouldn't expect the rest of us to walk into it.

[Philosophers]

The U.S. is becoming increasingly browner in terms of ethnic makeup and today

[Slugsy-Narrows]

Honestly asking the conservatives here- would a national or federal registration system for voting inspire more or less trust in elections in today's political climate?  My gut tells me there are too many conspiracy theorists out there that would make this idea DOA.

I'm thinking most of the conservatives here are of the same cloth as actual Republicans- reasonable folks with actual policy positions. Not the new Rs who are unfortunately dominating the party at the moment. As a former R myself I just want to say I appreciate the conversation.

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PSU

Part of me is ok with it and much like now I can get calls texts emails surf the web and do everything on my phone a one stop shop ID makes sense.

What worries me is how much of that info can get out with hacking and let

[MightyGiants]

PETER DOOCY: Is the WH concerned MLB is moving their All Star Game to Colorado, where voting rules are very similar to Georgia?

PSAKI: Let me refute that. CO has same-day registration, universal mail voting... it's important to remember the context. The GA bill is built on a lie