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Started by FL GMAN, June 04, 2021, 08:08:36 AM

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Ed Vette

Quote from: MightyGiants on June 04, 2021, 11:34:46 AM
Here are some of the stories coming from the right from just the past 24 hours:


Daily Wire:

Pompeo Slams Fauci:
"There is a greater purpose...that purpose is team. Winning, losing, playing hard, playing well, doing it for each other, winning the right way, winning the right way is a very important thing to me... Championships are won by teams who love one another, who respect one another, and play for and support one another."
~ Coach Tom Coughlin

MightyGiants

Quote from: Ed Vette on June 04, 2021, 11:37:14 AM
None of that applies to this thread's OP and his subsequent posts that never mentioned politics or posted links to support that.

It shows that the TOPIC was political.

One can argue that the political topic was introduced without political commentary but that doesn't make the topic less political


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Ed Vette

Quote from: MightyGiants on June 04, 2021, 11:40:37 AM
It shows that the TOPIC was political.

One can argue that the political topic was introduced without political commentary but that doesn't make the topic less political

If you truly believe that, then why did you respond to it instead of locking it?
"There is a greater purpose...that purpose is team. Winning, losing, playing hard, playing well, doing it for each other, winning the right way, winning the right way is a very important thing to me... Championships are won by teams who love one another, who respect one another, and play for and support one another."
~ Coach Tom Coughlin

MightyGiants

Quote from: Ed Vette on June 04, 2021, 11:48:57 AM
If you truly believe that, then why did you respond to it instead of locking it?

Since the political topics are generally being introduced by people whose political views I don't agree with, I don't want to be accused of politically motivated censorship. 
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Ed Vette

Quote from: MightyGiants on June 04, 2021, 12:01:02 PM
Since the political topics are generally being introduced by people whose political views I don't agree with, I don't want to be accused of politically motivated censorship.

So instead you accuse them of intent based on your subjective opinion, post links to support that in order to censor them and scold them. Ok, now I understand.
"There is a greater purpose...that purpose is team. Winning, losing, playing hard, playing well, doing it for each other, winning the right way, winning the right way is a very important thing to me... Championships are won by teams who love one another, who respect one another, and play for and support one another."
~ Coach Tom Coughlin

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Quote from: Ed Vette on June 04, 2021, 12:30:57 PM
So instead you accuse them of intent based on your subjective opinion, post links to support that in order to censor them and scold them. Ok, now I understand.

So controversial topics that are being heavily politicized and discussed by Trump and his supporters are in no way shape or form political????




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Ed Vette

Quote from: MightyGiants on June 04, 2021, 12:42:09 PM
So controversial topics that are being heavily politicized and discussed by Trump and his supporters are in no way shape or form political????

In and of themselves? Not unless the discussion goes in that direction. Dr. Fauci is an important figure at this time. This discussion could have taken place without directing it as a plot by right wing media or accusing one of our members of an agenda without evidence of his intent.
"There is a greater purpose...that purpose is team. Winning, losing, playing hard, playing well, doing it for each other, winning the right way, winning the right way is a very important thing to me... Championships are won by teams who love one another, who respect one another, and play for and support one another."
~ Coach Tom Coughlin

MightyGiants

Quote from: Ed Vette on June 04, 2021, 01:36:03 PM
In and of themselves? Not unless the discussion goes in that direction. Dr. Fauci is an important figure at this time. This discussion could have taken place without directing it as a plot by right wing media or accusing one of our members of an agenda without evidence of his intent.

His second post on this topic was a FALSE POLITICAL talking point (I already posted the fact check to prove it was false).  I say political because that's the only place one could get that false claim from was political propaganda sources.


Quote from: FL GMAN on June 04, 2021, 08:59:35 AM
What about the one where he said masks are ineffective, the virus is too small and will pass through?


Look, you may say I jumped the gun but we all know this was topic was about as non-political as the multiple threads promoting the idea that Covid escaped from a Chinese lab (interestingly enough his original post even mentioned that topic).   

I take great care to start topics that are not political in nature or add a political spin to the discussions we are having.  I am asking no less of others than what I am willing to do myself.

For the whole non-political current events thing to work, we can't be reliving this scene from Casablanca

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjbPi00k_ME

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Looks like I am not alone in recognizing things for what they really are


Republicans are using Fauci's emails to make him into a boogeyman

Analysis by Chris Cillizza

Choose your reality:

1) Reality 1: Newly released emails from the early days of the pandemic paint Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, as battling, often to the point of utter exhaustion, on the front lines of a virus that even he struggles to grasp the enormity of.
2) Reality 2: Newly released emails from the early days of the pandemic reveal that Fauci was -- and is -- a deeply partisan bureaucrat who worked behind the scenes to dismiss concerns about the possibility that Covid-19 had emerged after a lab leak in Wuhan, China -- among other things.

Allies of former President Donald Trump -- from Fox News' wall-to-wall coverage of the emails to Sen. Rand Paul's "told you" tweet earlier this week -- are very much adherents of Reality 2.

Of course, a little thing called "facts" back up Reality 1 -- also known as just plain reality for the majority of Americans.
Paul and others are hanging a whole lot on a single email from an executive at EcoHealth Alliance, a global nonprofit that helped fund some research at China's Wuhan Institute of Virology, thanking him for saying publicly that the scientific evidence suggested the virus had occurred naturally rather than from a lab leak.

Which is what the science said at the time. And as Fauci explained on CNN's "New Day" on Thursday:
"You can misconstrue it however you want -- that email was from a person to me saying 'thank you' for whatever it is he thought I said, and I said that I think the most likely origin is a jumping of species. I still do think it is, at the same time as I'm keeping an open mind that it might be a lab leak."
(President Joe Biden re-ignited the issue of the lab-leak theory in late May when he tasked the intelligence community to report back to him within 90 days on whether or not the virus occurred naturally or was the result of a lab leak.)

What the emails released this week re-prove is this: Fauci has become Republicans' new favorite boogeyman.
It's Fauci -- not Biden -- whom Trump-loving Republicans seem fixated on as they look for a foothold in a national political landscape where they control neither the White House or Congress.
"After seeing the emails, our Country is fortunate I didn't do what Dr. Fauci wanted me to do," said Trump in a statement released Thursday. "Dr. Fauci also didn't put an emphasis on speed of vaccine production because he thought it would take 3, 4, or maybe even 5 years to create. I got it done in less than 9 months with Operation Warp Speed."
Later, in a second statement, Trump added this: "The correspondence between Dr. Fauci and China speaks too loudly for anyone to ignore. China should pay Ten Trillion Dollars to America, and the World, for the death and destruction they have caused!"
For Trump -- and Paul -- this is simply a continuation of their regular drumbeat of attacks on Fauci over the past year or so. Trump and his followers -- in Congress and out -- have long insisted that Fauci is a secret Democrat who got it wrong at every turn of the pandemic. (Fauci, it's worth noting, has served in his role for Republican and Democratic presidents.)
One other example: In early April, Georgia Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene tweeted a video of her CrossFit workout routine accompanied by these words: "This is my Covid protection #MakeAmericaHealthyAgain. It's time to #FireFauci."
The year-long negative campaign against Fauci, who has largely avoided any sort of response or retaliation, has had a profound effect on how he is viewed by Republicans.
In a Fox News poll conducted late last month, just 1 in 3 Republicans approved of how Fauci has handled the virus while 64% disapproved. Compare that to the 6 in 10 registered voters who, in that same poll, said they approved of Fauci's work on Covid-19 and you see the massive disconnect between Republican voters and the general electorate.
Fauci's unpopularity among Republicans means that the likes of Trump, Paul and Greene will keep attacking him as a way to virtue signal to their base -- and raise money!
That a doctor who has spent his entire life working for presidents of both parties has become a despised figure among Republican leaders and voters speaks to just how far the GOP has gone off the rails.
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