Daniel Jones

[HondurasGiants]

The offense looked GOOD for ONE drive...the opening drive against Dallas when everyone was healthy...

Andrew Thomas got injured during that blocked FG, right?

I just HOPE (like our GM and HC irresponsibly hoped and obviously had no Plan B) our OL and Jones are ALL healthy by Week 7...even if we're 1-5...to see what we've got at QB...

And maybe our HC & company have gotten their act together by then as well

We NEED to be able to properly evaluate Daniel Jones..which has been impossible THIS year.

[Jclayton92]

If you don't know what Jones is after 60 games then I'm not sure another 10 are really going to do anything.

[katkavage]

The offense looked GOOD for ONE drive...the opening drive against Dallas when everyone was healthy...

Andrew Thomas got injured during that blocked FG, right?

I just HOPE (like our GM and HC irresponsibly hoped and obviously had no Plan B) our OL and Jones are ALL healthy by Week 7...even if we're 1-5...to see what we've got at QB...

And maybe our HC & company have gotten their act together by then as well

We NEED to be able to properly evaluate Daniel Jones..which has been impossible THIS year.

In year 7? 8? My evaluation is that he is in the 12-18 range and that's being kind.

[HondurasGiants]

If you don't know what Jones is after 60 games then I'm not sure another 10 are really going to do anything.

Like it or not...our management evaluated enough to give him a $40M per year contract (albeit with a 2-year out).

We NEED to evaluate him as our franchise QB...with a functional OL and respectable weapons.

IMO 10 games will help in the process.

[HondurasGiants]

In year 7? 8? My evaluation is that he is in the 12-18 range and that's being kind.

These years...5 and 6...and I hope he is in the 10-15 range...

[Rambo89]

Like it or not...our management evaluated enough to give him a $40M per year contract (albeit with a 2-year out).

We NEED to evaluate him as our franchise QB...with a functional OL and respectable weapons.

IMO 10 games will help in the process.

Question wouldn't that evaluation of him as the franchise QB taken place prior to handing him that contract?

[LennG]

Like it or not...our management evaluated enough to give him a $40M per year contract (albeit with a 2-year out).

We NEED to evaluate him as our franchise QB...with a functional OL and respectable weapons.

IMO 10 games will help in the process.

How many QBs in the league have those standards? Most have to make do with what they have and are evaluated on how they perform with what they do have. It's like you can't have your cake and eat it too. Unless Jones has these 'perfect' conditions, he cannot be evaluated?
 Not every situation is great but a good QB will rise above the fray and put his team on his back and perform. I am just sick and tired of the same old, same old. Last year it was WRs and now it's OL. Next year when we get rid of Barkley it will be no running game. Enough is enough. A good QB will overcome many 'bad' things, but Jones simply cannot. Everything has to be perfect in order for him to be evaluated. Nonsense.

[MightyGiants]

The offense looked GOOD for ONE drive...the opening drive against Dallas when everyone was healthy...

Andrew Thomas got injured during that blocked FG, right?

I just HOPE (like our GM and HC irresponsibly hoped and obviously had no Plan B) our OL and Jones are ALL healthy by Week 7...even if we're 1-5...to see what we've got at QB...

And maybe our HC & company have gotten their act together by then as well

We NEED to be able to properly evaluate Daniel Jones..which has been impossible THIS year.

You make a fair point.

[JT39]

How many QBs in the league have those standards? Most have to make do with what they have and are evaluated on how they perform with what they do have. It's like you can't have your cake and eat it too. Unless Jones has these 'perfect' conditions, he cannot be evaluated?
 Not every situation is great but a good QB will rise above the fray and put his team on his back and perform. I am just sick and tired of the same old, same old. Last year it was WRs and now it's OL. Next year when we get rid of Barkley it will be no running game. Enough is enough. A good QB will overcome many 'bad' things, but Jones simply cannot. Everything has to be perfect in order for him to be evaluated. Nonsense.

Who's asking for perfect?

Can we at least see league average first?

[MightyGiants]

Who's asking for perfect?

Can we at least see league average first?

No one dies, but if you want to skew things against Daniel Jones you make that false claim.

[Rambo89]

Who's asking for perfect?

Can we at least see league average first?

Average wouldn't be good enough for Daniel Jones.  He needs perfect anything less than it's unfair to him.

[HondurasGiants]

How many QBs in the league have those standards? Most have to make do with what they have and are evaluated on how they perform with what they do have. It's like you can't have your cake and eat it too. Unless Jones has these 'perfect' conditions, he cannot be evaluated?
 Not every situation is great but a good QB will rise above the fray and put his team on his back and perform. I am just sick and tired of the same old, same old. Last year it was WRs and now it's OL. Next year when we get rid of Barkley it will be no running game. Enough is enough. A good QB will overcome many 'bad' things, but Jones simply cannot. Everything has to be perfect in order for him to be evaluated. Nonsense.

Just to be clear...I used the words functional and respectable weapons...not perfect.

He was evaluated and given a contract.

Now he has 2 years to prove them right (or wrong).

Here'a to hoping we can do that (with a functional OL) and he thrives (or fails)...instead of having to watch this embarrassment of an offense on national TV.

[HondurasGiants]

https://x.com/ralphvacchiano/status/1711549470893097066?s=46

Agree or not...some of us see it this way

Go Giants!

[T200]

Yes, Daniel Jones has been all class. That's to his credit as a man. But what does that have to do with his playing ability? What does that have to do with results? All that derision that has been heaped on him by boorish fans and haters in the media is rough. The lack of an offensive line and great receivers (but an all world running back at times) made it hard to succeed. All these negative factors, yet Daniel Jones has made some serious money. I give him much credit for keeping his mouth shut while cashing his paycheck.

I wish I could like this multiple times.

Character is great. Being a model team player is wonderful. Playing competitive, winning football is all that matters.

I'd rather Jones be an obnoxious a-hole if he was a consistently 10-12 game winner.

[T200]

Like it or not...our management evaluated enough to give him a $40M per year contract (albeit with a 2-year out).

We NEED to evaluate him as our franchise QB...with a functional OL and respectable weapons.

IMO 10 games will help in the process.

If they (management) need more than 5 seasons to evaluate a player, they are in the wrong damn business. And I need another team to root for.