Mike Lombardi on QB leadership

[MightyGiants]

Mike brought up an interesting concept on his latest podcast.  He talked about QB popularity (in the locker room) and how players want to play for some QBs and not others.   He brought up the example of the Giants/Pats game.   He felt the players liked DeVito, and they clearly wanted to play for him, while Mac Jones did not seem to inspire his players. 

He pointed out that despite Wentz's ability as a QB, players didn't like him and didn't want to play for him.  It's sort of funny when the draftniks evaluate QBs these days; all they talk about is "arm talent" (which I consider a fancy term for arm strength) because of the success of Mahommes and Allen.  Yet, things like charisma and leadership are just as important but are often taken for granted.

[BluesCruz]

Mike brought up an interesting concept on his latest podcast.  He talked about QB popularity (in the locker room) and how players want to play for some QBs and not others.   He brought up the example of the Giants/Pats game.   He felt the players liked DeVito, and they clearly wanted to play for him, while Mac Jones did not seem to inspire his players. 

He pointed out that despite Wentz's ability as a QB, players didn't like him and didn't want to play for him.  It's sort of funny when the draftniks evaluate QBs these days; all they talk about is "arm talent" (which I consider a fancy term for arm strength) because of the success of Mahommes and Allen.  Yet, things like charisma and leadership are just as important but are often taken for granted.

It seems Tommy has the whole package.....the problem is Mara, Schoen and Daboll have to do a 180 to go with Tommy.....politics

Hopefully the fates work to keep Tommy on the field

[Ed Vette]

DJ leads by example and everyone likes him but TD leads with his personality, confidence and charisma. As I've mentioned, he has clearly uplifted the spirits of the team.

[EDjohnst1981]

I think the Wentz point is of interest. Did the players not like playing for him when he was in his near-MVP season and had them cooking on all cylinders? I genuinely cannot remember (that's not to say there wasn't) any pushback on him in terms of leadership or personality.

Or has this developed whilst he's been on bad/poor teams?

[MightyGiants]

I think the Wentz point is of interest. Did the players not like playing for him when he was in his near-MVP season and had them cooking on all cylinders? I genuinely cannot remember (that's not to say there wasn't) any pushback on him in terms of leadership or personality.

Or has this developed whilst he's been on bad/poor teams?

From what I have heard, it started with the Eagles and followed him.

[EDjohnst1981]

From what I have heard, it started with the Eagles and followed him.

Thanks, Rich.

[katkavage]

The best leaders do it on the field. They win. They do what it takes to win. They don't have  be rah rah. They don't have to yell, scream, cajole, whatever. If you are a nice guy, hard worker, a good teammate but you just can't get it done on the field, how is that leadership? Walk the walk, don't talk the talk. That's it.

[Fletch]

Yea I always thought that the players gave up on Mike Glennon. He was not that bad. I mean the dude made another roster even after the Giants debacle. That should tell you something. There is something off putting about M Lombardi , and it is a tough business for sure , but I often find myself agreeing with him on a lot.

[NY47GIANTS]

The best leaders do it on the field. They win. They do what it takes to win. They don't have  be rah rah. They don't have to yell, scream, cajole, whatever. If you are a nice guy, hard worker, a good teammate but you just can't get it done on the field, how is that leadership? Walk the walk, don't talk the talk. That's it.

This! 👆

And, if I may, I'd like to add, excuses.

Ohhh the excuses!!

Leaders don't make excuses.

Leaders don't need to have the entire MSM in unison, creepily enough, making excuses FOR YOU.

The list goes on.

"Excuses are the hole from which this franchise must dig itself out of."

- Proverb I just made up.

[DaveBrown74]

Yea I always thought that the players gave up on Mike Glennon. He was not that bad.

On the Giants he wasn't bad? Really? What I saw when I watched him was nothing short of an unmitigated train wreck. I don't even need to look at his numbers that season to recall that.

He hasn't played a single snap in the NFL since then, and he is not on any team now. He was a total disaster for us.

[Fletch]

On the Giants he wasn't bad? Really? What I saw when I watched him was nothing short of an unmitigated train wreck. I don't even need to look at his numbers that season to recall that.

He hasn't played a single snap in the NFL since then, and he is not on any team now. He was a total disaster for us.

He was a backup on the Dolphins after the Giants, on a play-off team. Yes, he didn't play but still, you don't make another roster on a play-off team after the Giants debacle without someone thinking it was the Giants fault, he looked like that.

[DaveBrown74]

He was a backup on the Dolphins after the Giants, on a play-off team. Yes, he didn't play but still, you don't make another roster on a play-off team after the Giants debacle without someone thinking it was the Giants fault, he looked like that.

He was much, much, much worse than Jones was prior to Jones getting hurt (on the same team), and we know Jones isn't good. That's kind of all you need to know.

This was his stint on the Dolphins (quoting Wikipedia):

Miami Dolphins
On January 4, 2023, the Miami Dolphins signed Glennon to their practice squad.[66] He was elevated to the Dolphins' active roster for the team's week 18 game against the New York Jets on January 8, 2023, to backup rookie Skylar Thompson after both starter Tua Tagovailoa and backup quarterback Teddy Bridgewater dealing with injuries. [1] His practice squad contract with the team expired after the season on January 15, 2023.


So he became a backup player at the very end of the season when both the team's starter and real backup got hurt. In other words, he was QB4 there, never played, and wasn't asked back. I wouldn't say that's much of a feather in his cap.

[T200]

On the Giants he wasn't bad? Really? What I saw when I watched him was nothing short of an unmitigated train wreck. I don't even need to look at his numbers that season to recall that.

He hasn't played a single snap in the NFL since then, and he is not on any team now. He was a total disaster for us.

He's been on this Glennon thing for a couple of years now. I don't get why people even respond do it.   

[DaveBrown74]

He's been on this Glennon thing for a couple of years now. I don't get why people even respond do it.   

Fair enough.

You're right, we have bigger fish to fry than debating the precise degree to which a former player sucked.

[TDToomer]

He's been on this Glennon thing for a couple of years now. I don't get why people even respond do it.   

I think he actually is Mike Glennon.