PFF ranks the Giants’ offensive line last in the NFL

[AZGiantFan]

They seemed a lot better blocking for Tommy D

Perhaps they raise their game a bit for a decent QB......not a guy afraid to let the ball fly

That's funny, since with better personnel (Thomas and Pugh) they gave up a higher percentage of sacks when he was under center than they did when DJ was under center.

[Trench]

That's funny, since with better personnel (Thomas and Pugh) they gave up a higher percentage of sacks when he was under center than they did when DJ was under center.

I think it seemed better because he threw it downfield more and made more plays.

[AZGiantFan]

I think it seemed better because he threw it downfield more and made more plays.

And that's the problem with the eye test, when it isn't fact checked by measurables.

[Doc16LT56]

Justin Pugh did not represent an improvement in personnel. He was terrible on the field, despite his likeable personality. He had a 41.6 PFF grade (compared to 42.4 for Ezeudu who's been a complete disaster).

Pugh was on the couch, played 12 terrible games for the Giants, and is back on the couch where he belongs

[BluesCruz]

Justin Pugh did not represent an improvement in personnel. He was terrible on the field, despite his likeable personality. He had a 41.6 PFF grade (compared to 42.4 for Ezeudu who's been a complete disaster).

Pugh was on the couch, played 12 terrible games for the Giants, and is back on the couch where he belongs

I don't know.  Did Pugh retire
Last I heard he intended to bulk up and get ready to rumble in 2024

Guy loves the Giants team and was a coach on the field.  A great confidence boost to an online that looked lost

My sons best friend was a neighbor of Pugh's growing up and had nothing but great things to say about Justin Pugh

[Doc16LT56]

I don't know.  Did Pugh retire
Last I heard he intended to bulk up and get ready to rumble in 2024

Guy loves the Giants team and was a coach on the field.  A great confidence boost to an online that looked lost

My sons best friend was a neighbor of Pugh's growing up and had nothing but great things to say about Justin Pugh

That's the problem with Pugh. Great guy but was a terrible player last season. So far he's still on the couch. He may be waiting for another rash of injuries before some team calls him out of desperation. But he's absolutely a great guy. He's the guy you'd invite to the cookout every time.

[BluesCruz]

That's funny, since with better personnel (Thomas and Pugh) they gave up a higher percentage of sacks when he was under center than they did when DJ was under center.

Sacks aside they seemed to be more in synch for DeVito (and Tyrod Taylor),that's what I meant

The not so slippery Daniel Jones seemed constantly running for his life

[Gman329]

Ya know, I was hopeful when I first embarked on this thread, that it wouldn't become just another Daniel Jones debate....but alas!  Here we are again.

I am still very concerned that we haven't improved the OL enough to make a big difference.  Looking at the PFF scores, it seems that we signed a slightly better brand of lousy. And if Schmitz doesn't improve markedly, any improvement in the overall unit will be negligible. Just like last year, I'm more hopeful than confident.  Much more.