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MightyGiants

May 15, 2024, 09:58:06 AM
SMART, TOUGH, DEPENDABLE

Ed Vette

#1
May 15, 2024, 11:15:42 AM
What did you say about conspiracy theories... "The Bastion of the Weak Minded"??
"There is a greater purpose...that purpose is team. Winning, losing, playing hard, playing well, doing it for each other, winning the right way, winning the right way is a very important thing to me... Championships are won by teams who love one another, who respect one another, and play for and support one another."
~ Coach Tom Coughlin

Jclayton92

#2
May 15, 2024, 11:19:28 AM
Is this anything new? For the past 5 years it's been Barkley and now it's Lawrence and Thibs. The best players on the team or flashy 1st rd picks are typically the focus of the media.

Ed Vette

#3
May 15, 2024, 11:27:51 AM
Quote from: Jclayton92 on May 15, 2024, 11:19:28 AMIs this anything new? For the past 5 years it's been Barkley and now it's Lawrence and Thibs. The best players on the team or flashy 1st rd picks are typically the focus of the media.
It is sad that the highest paid player has never been considered the face of the franchise.
"There is a greater purpose...that purpose is team. Winning, losing, playing hard, playing well, doing it for each other, winning the right way, winning the right way is a very important thing to me... Championships are won by teams who love one another, who respect one another, and play for and support one another."
~ Coach Tom Coughlin

Ed Vette

#4
May 15, 2024, 11:29:28 AM
It's not his fault. Blame all the DJ Hate out there.
"There is a greater purpose...that purpose is team. Winning, losing, playing hard, playing well, doing it for each other, winning the right way, winning the right way is a very important thing to me... Championships are won by teams who love one another, who respect one another, and play for and support one another."
~ Coach Tom Coughlin

T200

#5
May 15, 2024, 11:46:24 AM
Quote from: Ed Vette on May 15, 2024, 11:29:28 AMIt's not his fault. Blame all the DJ Hate out there.
Blame the person who created the flyer and blame the person who approved it.

Haters gonna hate hate hate...
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MightyGiants

#6
May 15, 2024, 11:54:56 AM
Quote from: Ed Vette on May 15, 2024, 11:15:42 AMWhat did you say about conspiracy theories... "The Bastion of the Weak Minded"??

What's the theory?
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kartanoman

#7
May 15, 2024, 12:25:13 PM
Reminds me of the mid 1990s when Dave Brown was benched for Tommy Maddox. Trying times.

Peace.


"Dave Jennings was one of the all-time great Giants. He was a valued member of the Giants family for more than 30 years as a player and a broadcaster, and we were thrilled to include him in our Ring of Honor. We will miss him dearly." (John Mara)

kingm56

#8
May 15, 2024, 12:29:50 PM
Quote from: T200 on May 15, 2024, 11:46:24 AMBlame the person who created the flyer and blame the person who approved it.

Haters gonna hate hate hate...

To be fair, DJ is just not marquee player.  The Giants are in the entertainment business and need to promote players that will actually sell tickets and/or merchandise.

T200

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May 15, 2024, 12:55:00 PM
Quote from: kingm56 on May 15, 2024, 12:29:50 PMTo be fair, DJ is just not marquee player.  The Giants are in the entertainment business and need to promote players that will actually sell tickets and/or merchandise.
I like WDR and hope he has his breakout season. But... what has he done to this point to warrant being on the flyer?

The Giants will go as far as Jones takes them. FWIW, IMHO, he should have been on there.
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kingm56

#10
May 15, 2024, 01:11:15 PM
Quote from: T200 on May 15, 2024, 12:55:00 PMI like WDR and hope he has his breakout season. But... what has he done to this point to warrant being on the flyer?

The Giants will go as far as Jones takes them. FWIW, IMHO, he should have been on there.

Tim,

The Giants are in the entertainment sector; their job is to generate buzz for the sole purpose of selling tickets and/or merchandise.  I'm not entirely sure what rewarding players via a spot on a flyer has to do with those efforts. The Giants are a multi-billion dollar privately owned business, with an extensive marketing department.  I'm sure thier research discovered fans are excited about WDR protentional; thus, they chose to promote him over more well established players. Fundamentally, a football organization #1 goal is to generate profit, vice winning games.  The flyer is concerned with the former and not the latter.

T200

#11
May 15, 2024, 01:23:18 PM
Quote from: kingm56 on May 15, 2024, 01:11:15 PMTim,

The Giants are in the entertainment sector; their job is to generate buzz for the sole purpose of selling tickets and/or merchandise.  I'm not entirely sure what rewarding players via a spot on a flyer has to do with those efforts. The Giants are a multi-billion dollar privately owned business, with an extensive marketing department.  I'm sure thier research discovered fans are excited about WDR protentional; thus, they chose to promote him over more well established players. Fundamentally, a football organization #1 goal is to generate profit, vice winning games.  The flyer is concerned with the former and not the latter.
I get your point. I just don't agree with it.

Winning is the ultimate goal. You win, people want to see/pay for your product.

We have several members here who gave up their PSLs and tickets because of the piss-poor product that has been trotted out over that past 10+ years.

Despite the efforts to replace Jones, it would behoove the organization to have this kid's head on straight and his ego intact. Throw him a bone and show that the entire organization is behind him and he is the face of this franchise, at least for this season.

And, if not Jones, on the flyer, at least put the #1 pick up there. There's more hope about what lift he can provide the offense than what WDR can. Just sayin'.
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katkavage

#12
May 15, 2024, 01:24:19 PM
It would be presumptuous to put Nabers on the poster. The players on it currently are all they got to advertise right now.

kingm56

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May 15, 2024, 01:34:21 PM Last Edit: May 15, 2024, 01:41:04 PM by kingm56
Quote from: T200 on May 15, 2024, 01:23:18 PMI get your point. I just don't agree with it.

Winning is the ultimate goal. You win, people want to see/pay for your product.

We have several members here who gave up their PSLs and tickets because of the piss-poor product that has been trotted out over that past 10+ years.

Despite the efforts to replace Jones, it would behoove the organization to have this kid's head on straight and his ego intact. Throw him a bone and show that the entire organization is behind him and he is the face of this franchise, at least for this season.

And, if not Jones, on the flyer, at least put the #1 pick up there. There's more hope about what lift he can provide the offense than what WDR can. Just sayin'.

I hear you, Tim, but the data simply doesn't support your sentiments; 6 of the top 10 most valuable franchise have stunk for 3 or more years...5 of the 6 have stunk for more than a decade; The Bill, Lions and Bengals are #30, 31 and 32. It's fairly clear winning has absolutely nothing to do with profitability. Concerning the PSL, the Giants could care less who buys thier tickets.  The NFL ticket exchange ensures they get a cut of ticket sales from all third party vendors. So, while some fans elected to forgo thier PSL(s), other fans have stepped in to purchase them, if solely for the purpose of reselling thier tickets via said exchange to make a profit.   

More to the point, the Giants marketing department does not care about throwing players a bone or winning games; their job is to sell tickets.  It really is that simple, my friend. I believe some fans conflate the entertainment side of the business with football operations; they're two separate things...

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T200

#14
May 15, 2024, 01:53:44 PM
Quote from: kingm56 on May 15, 2024, 01:34:21 PMI hear you, Tim, but the data simply doesn't support your sentiments; 6 of the top 10 most valuable franchise have stunk for 3 or more years...5 of the 6 have stunk for more than a decade; The Bill, Lions and Bengals are #30, 31 and 32. It's fairly clear winning has absolutely nothing to do with profitability. Concerning the PSL, the Giants could care less who buys thier tickets.  The NFL ticket exchange ensures they get a cut of ticket sales from all third party vendors. So, while some fans elected to forgo thier PSL(s), other fans have stepped in to purchase them, if solely for the purpose of reselling thier tickets via said exchange to make a profit.   

More to the point, the Giants marketing department does not care about throwing players a bone or winning games; their job is to sell tickets.  It really is that simple, my friend. I believe some fans conflate the entertainment side of the business with football operations; they're two separate things...

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#5 Bears
#6 Raiders
#7 Jets
#8 Commanders
Sorry, still don't buy that this flyer without Jones will generate more revenue, since you say that's the bottom line, than it would with him.
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