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Here is a good picture of Flott to judge his size

Started by MightyGiants, May 22, 2024, 07:59:11 AM

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Jclayton92


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madbadger

What does it matter? I can't recall a single time watching him play and thinking to myself he would have made that play if he was 15 pounds heavier.

Philosophers

Quote from: madbadger on May 22, 2024, 03:52:26 PMWhat does it matter? I can't recall a single time watching him play and thinking to myself he would have made that play if he was 15 pounds heavier.

As a string bean he may not be anle to press any WR.

Jclayton92

Quote from: Philosophers on May 22, 2024, 05:34:53 PMAs a string bean he may not be anle to press any WR.
Funny thing is that he is significantly better in press than zone.

Topshelf21

Geez, he's probably wearing a jock!

Give the guy a break....it's all genetic and you get what you're born with!!

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madbadger

Quote from: Philosophers on May 22, 2024, 05:34:53 PMAs a string bean he may not be anle to press any WR.

Again, at what point did you look at him and say he wasn't strong enough to play corner in the NFL?

uconnjack8

It seems like it's just me, but I don't find that picture particularly good to compare sizes.  Flott is outstretched (maybe leaping?) and Banks is crouched in a ready position.

Philosophers

Quote from: madbadger on May 22, 2024, 06:23:53 PMAgain, at what point did you look at him and say he wasn't strong enough to play corner in the NFL?

I saw instances where his jams at LOS were easily defeated and missed tackles where some bulk might have helped him.

uconnjack8

Quote from: Jclayton92 on May 22, 2024, 05:37:12 PMFunny thing is that he is significantly better in press than zone.

Isnt our new scheme heavier zone than man?

Jclayton92


Jolly Blue Giant

He looks fine to me. I've been around guys who look thin, but are exceptionally strong. Some call it "string muscle" vs "mass muscle". Those thin guys tend to be not only strong, but also faster and more flexible. I'm no expert on muscle, so I did some research

From ChatGPT:

"The phenomenon where some men who look skinny are stronger than those who look muscular can be attributed to several factors, including muscle density, training style, genetics, and neuromuscular efficiency. Here's a detailed explanation:

1. Muscle Density


Lean Muscle Mass: Muscular appearance is often associated with larger muscle size, but this doesn't necessarily equate to strength. Strength is more closely related to the density and quality of muscle fibers.

Muscle Composition: Some people have a higher proportion of type II (fast-twitch) muscle fibers, which are more powerful and contribute to greater strength.

2. Training Style

Strength Training vs. Hypertrophy: Men who look muscular may focus on hypertrophy (increasing muscle size) through high-repetition, moderate-weight training. In contrast, those who appear skinny might engage in strength training with low repetitions and higher weights, leading to increased strength without significant muscle size gain.

Functional Strength: Athletes in sports that require functional strength (e.g., gymnastics, rock climbing) often develop exceptional strength without significant increases in muscle size.

3. Neuromuscular Efficiency

Motor Unit Recruitment: Stronger individuals often have better neuromuscular efficiency, meaning their nervous system is more effective at activating muscle fibers. This allows them to generate more force with the muscle mass they have.
   
Coordination and Technique: Skill and technique play significant roles in strength. Someone who is "skinny" might have developed excellent lifting techniques and motor patterns, allowing them to lift more efficiently.

4. Genetics


Genetic Predisposition: Genetics influence muscle fiber composition, tendon insertion points, limb length, and other factors that can affect strength. Some individuals are genetically predisposed to be stronger despite not having large muscles.
"

Regardless, I think Flott takes too much flack from fans for not looking like Charles Atlas. He was doing pretty well towards the end of last season. So much of football has to do with the muscle inside the skull - anticipation, understanding moves, ability to readjust quickly, etc. I tend to give coaches credit for understanding things that I don't, and I believe if the coaches didn't think Flott has potential, he'd be long gone
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uconnjack8

Quote from: Jclayton92 on May 23, 2024, 09:37:53 AMI believe it's a mix

I think all NFL schemes are a mix.  I got the impression that Bowen prefers zone to man and the majority of plays will be zone.  TBH, I really don't know.

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