Two Giants talk resilience

[MightyGiants]

I was listening to Coach Gene on Pat Traina's show.  He made a good point about the Hyatt INT.   If you want DJ (or any QB) to push the ball down the field deep, you are going to need to live with some INTs like that. It's part of the cost of the deep game.

[MightyGiants]

One thing I liked with Nabers.  With his drop, it appeared he was trying to make a one-handed catch. I noticed on the catch everyone was raving about, and he used both hands.  Learned from his mistake.

[kartanoman]

I was listening to Coach Gene on Pat Traina's show.  He made a good point about the Hyatt INT.   If you want DJ (or any QB) to push the ball down the field deep, you are going to need to live with some INTs like that. It's part of the cost of the deep game.

Good morning, Rich @MightyGiants .

Your statement reminds me of the late John Madden's old analysis during one of the Giants' old playoff games in the mid 80s. Not sure if it was 1985 or 1986, but I vaguely remember him talking about how the Giants used their running game and their play action to their backs or tight end to draw the secondary in. Then, use the play fake to make like they're going short and then go deep to one of their wide outs. Not sure if it was a play to Stacy Robinson or Bobby Johnson, but the receiver had misplayed the trajectory, and it ended up bouncing off their shoulder pad or they bobbled the ball (NOTE: might have been the '86 Divisional playoff vs. the 49ers).

Madden went on to say that sometimes you spend nearly half a game setting a defense up in order to get the look you want to make the big play and, when it finally comes, you'd better take advantage of it!

Granted, the game has evolved since the mid 80s and the athletes on the field today, coupled with the schemes that are being employed out there are more complex today than during those great Giants-49ers battles of the 80s to early 90s. But the one thing I would expect is that the quarterback is putting the ball in a place where either his receiver can make a play on it or it will fall safely incomplete. But the point of being daring and being high risk, high reward was very much the philosophy of Bill Parcells with Phil Simms and his confidence and trust in Phil helped make it work 40 years ago. The same needs to happen between Daboll and Jones.

Peace!

[MightyGiants]

Good morning, Rich @MightyGiants .

Your statement reminds me of the late John Madden's old analysis during one of the Giants' old playoff games in the mid 80s. Not sure if it was 1985 or 1986, but I vaguely remember him talking about how the Giants used their running game and their play action to their backs or tight end to draw the secondary in. Then, use the play fake to make like they're going short and then go deep to one of their wide outs. Not sure if it was a play to Stacy Robinson or Bobby Johnson, but the receiver had misplayed the trajectory, and it ended up bouncing off their shoulder pad or they bobbled the ball (NOTE: might have been the '86 Divisional playoff vs. the 49ers).

Madden went on to say that sometimes you spend nearly half a game setting a defense up in order to get the look you want to make the big play and, when it finally comes, you'd better take advantage of it!

Granted, the game has evolved since the mid 80s and the athletes on the field today, coupled with the schemes that are being employed out there are more complex today than during those great Giants-49ers battles of the 80s to early 90s. But the one thing I would expect is that the quarterback is putting the ball in a place where either his receiver can make a play on it or it will fall safely incomplete. But the point of being daring and being high risk, high reward was very much the philosophy of Bill Parcells with Phil Simms and his confidence and trust in Phil helped make it work 40 years ago. The same needs to happen between Daboll and Jones.

Peace!

I think Daboll is looking to push the ball down field to loosen up the defense (push them off the LOS) which should help the run game and the underneath passing