QB prospects in 2025 NFL Draft Evaluation By LY QBR And TY Stats

[Philosophers]

That's a QBR list from last season. The list will look very different in 4 months and it isn't even a good list now. Cam Ward is already in the top 5 after yesterday, he won't be going down on that list, and will be in New York as a finalist for the Heisman.

I will be focusing on the guys who look better every time I see them, starting with Ward and Cook.

Enjoy the games and save this stuff for February.

Am I the onky one who thinks Cam Ward's delivery is a bit unorthodox?  It seems like a bit side armed with the ball getting released before the optimal telease point.

[Jolly Blue Giant]

I am keenly aware of those pianists who presently may be regarded as the world's best. Although, I do play piano myself, it would never occur to me rank those extraordinary talents in some sort of pecking order. Don't get me wrong, I am not suggesting that there is any comparability between those with the gift of genius and a list of 2025 QB Draft prospects. But it does make it difficult and awkward, almost embarrassing, for me to do so for the latter when all I can do is stick a wet finger in the air.

But then I remind myself that it's all Fantasy Football reminiscent of Chopin's Opus 30, Fantasie-Impromptu in C# minor, the melody from the middle section of which was used in the popular Vaudeville song "I'm Always Chasing Rainbows".   

Cheers!

I don't want to sabotage this thread, but as a pianist myself, I share your opinion. Pianists have styles of their own and translate their feelings through the ebonies and ivories. One person's opinion is biased by his own preferred style and choice of music...which is okay, but that one opinion does not represent all the pianists in the world. Only thing I can add, is that I made all four of my kids take piano lessons and said after a year or two, they can choose any instrument they so desire, but they were going to be able to read a sheet of music and walk up to a piano and know where middle C is, and the difference between a B-flat and F-Sharp. Only one chose to stick with the piano, the others...guitar, flute, and one didn't go on with an instrument. The purpose in forcing my kids to take up an instrument - in my defense of being too hard of a father - was that attempting to master an instrument (and typically failing), one gains a far greater appreciation of those who really have mastered it. It can make one awestruck, as I've found myself many times. If never giving an instrument a shot, it's hard (I think anyway), to fully appreciate what it takes for one to master that instrument and thus, take it for granted and never be able to really appreciate it to the level it is deserved

Anyway, back to football...don't sleep on Kyle McCord! He's going to surprise a lot of people this year. You heard it here first, LOL

[Philosophers]

Are you folks watching Miller Moss from USC? This kid also looks good.  Great game.

[Gman329]

Are you folks watching Miller Moss from USC? This kid also looks good.  Great game.

Just came here to ask the same thing!  I haven't heard his name mentioned anywhere but I found him on one list, ranked 34th among QBs.  He looked a hell of a lot better than that tonight!

[Bob In PA]

Ed: Do you believe Sanders is capable of becoming an elite NFL QB? 

I just don't see it, although I do see him with the potential to be good (mostly due to elite physicality).

There are elements missing from his game, which he somewhat makes up for by excelling in other areas.

Bob

PS. Keep an eye on Miller Moss of USC. If his OL holds up, he'll surprise a few Big Ten teams. And it never hurts a QB to have Lincoln Riley as a coach. I don't think Moss intends to play pro ball, so most observers tend to ignore him (or give him less attention). Nevertheless, he is one darn good player... and smart.

[Bob In PA]

I wonder about the kid that's from Penn st
If I remember correctly, someone last year was really high on him

brownE: Probably me. IMO he'll be a 1st-rounder, but I hear rumblings he won't come out after this year. Bob

[spiderblue43]

Dart i want to follow close. He looks the part. Big arm, size, athleticism..etc. And in garbage time, an Arch Manning siting! He looks more spry than the brothers Manning.

    

[MightyGiants]

We have three threads on college QBs, plus one on college football in general. 

[EDjohnst1981]

Good point.

I do find the weekly thread that offers a run down of key players/games to be of use. I would like that to remain stand alone if one of the knowledge posters is happy to start it.

[Ed Vette]

Exactly. Let's just talk about Daniel Jones.

[DaveBrown74]

Good point.

I do find the weekly thread that offers a run down of key players/games to be of use. I would like that to remain stand alone if one of the knowledge posters is happy to start it.

Agreed. The weekly college thread is a great one-stop-shop for all college talk, and since this is a Giants site there probably doesn't nee to be more college talk than that.

I think this week is a bit unique because there is no pro football (or even meaningful news) and college was in full swing with some big games this weekend. So it's sort of understandable.

My personal suggestion would be that moving forward we confine college discussions to the weekly college games thread. I'm pretty sure once the NFL games start there won't be a great deal of college talk outside of Saturdays anyway.

[Ed Vette]

Ed: Do you believe Sanders is capable of becoming an elite NFL QB? 

I just don't see it, although I do see him with the potential to be good (mostly due to elite physicality).

There are elements missing from his game, which he somewhat makes up for by excelling in other areas.

Bob

PS. Keep an eye on Miller Moss of USC. If his OL holds up, he'll surprise a few Big Ten teams. And it never hurts a QB to have Lincoln Riley as a coach. I don't think Moss intends to play pro ball, so most observers tend to ignore him (or give him less attention). Nevertheless, he is one darn good player... and smart.

I believe he has good fluid motion and maintains his base in the pocket. I know his arm strength is questioned by some but it looks strong enough for me. He seems to make his reads quickly and makes good decisions. I haven't spent much time scouting him since he had another season and there were 5 other QBs I was looking at. What do you see him as missing? And what's up with no TEs in this Offense?   

[brownelvis54]

New York Giants: Scouting the 2025 quarterback draft class | Week 1 standout performances



The New York Giants are well aware that Daniel Jones could be in his final year with the team that drafted him in 2019. The Giants gave Jones a substantial four-year, $160 million contract during the 2023 offseason, which included $92 million guaranteed. However, general manager Joe Schoen strategically included an option to exit the deal after the 2024 season, which would save the Giants approximately $19 million in salary cap space next year if exercised.

https://empiresportsmedia.com/new-york-giants/new-york-giants-scouting-the-2025-quarterback-draft-class-week-1-standout-performances/

[brownelvis54]

Again I like Carson Beck and Quinn Ewers the most. Dont know anything about Jaxson Dart, Drew Allar, Jalen Milroe or Cam Ward

[Jolly Blue Giant]

Grading the transfer QBs after week 1 https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/college-football-week-1-grades-how-six-prominent-transfer-qbs-fared-from-a-to-d/