John Mara - I’m begging you please

[Philosophers]

If we go something like 5-12, I think cleaning house again will happen.  There wont be a next year.  It will be necessary.

I believe we will take a look at Bill B. But I would not be surprised if Steve Sarkisian is interviewed and considered.  Maybe even Saban.  Giants will lean toward a veteran HC.

[TONKA56]

idk why people insist that Mara is meddling still and controlling decisions.

Not John Mara specifically.

[TONKA56]

If we go something like 5-12, I think cleaning house again will happen.  There wont be a next year.  It will be necessary.

I believe we will take a look at Bill B. But I would not be surprised if Steve Sarkisian is interviewed and considered.  Maybe even Saban.  Giants will lean toward a veteran HC.

Won't happen.

[Philosophers]

Won't happen.

What part?

[TDToomer]

Not John Mara specifically.

Chris Mara is meddling?

[TONKA56]

What part?

The house cleaning. Unless a complete media spectacle debacle occurs, the regime will be given one chance to rebuild yet again with a new quarterback. Unfortunately they may not be in a great situation to obtain one, either because they won't have adequate draft capital, a quality player won't be available-forcing another overdraft, or they'll have to compromise on a retread free agent.

[TONKA56]

Chris Mara is meddling?

The nepotistic trifecta of John Mara, Chris Mara, and Tim McDonnell. Since two of them hold positions within football operations, perhaps meddling isn't the appropriate word. The optics aren't good for anyone arguing that this arrangement is optimal for producing winning football.

[Philosophers]

No

The house cleaning. Unless a complete media spectacle debacle occurs, the regime will be given one chance to rebuild yet again with a new quarterback. Unfortunately they may not be in a great situation to obtain one, either because they won't have adequate draft capital, a quality player won't be available-forcing another overdraft, or they'll have to compromise on a retread free agent.

No way. 

[TONKA56]

No
No way. 

Yes. After the past ten years it will take an absolutely epic debacle to lead to a house cleaning. A mere bad record won't be enough.

[coggs]

If we go something like 5-12, I think cleaning house again will happen.  There wont be a next year.  It will be necessary.

I believe we will take a look at Bill B. But I would not be surprised if Steve Sarkisian is interviewed and considered.  Maybe even Saban.  Giants will lean toward a veteran HC.

Saban? No way. 

[TDToomer]

What is this obsession with Giants fans wanted to pursue septuagenarian for head coach? Belichick can't win without Brady and Sabon has only failed outside of coaching the minors.

[Philosophers]

Yes. After the past ten years it will take an absolutely epic debacle to lead to a house cleaning. A mere bad record won't be enough.

A year 3 record of 5-12, a huge DJ contract, loss of Saquon to a rival, draft blunders with Neal and generally subpar drafts overall, and a complicated offense that defenders say they know the plays and poor construction of position coaches and coordinators will be sufficient reasons to reset.

We have always thought the Giants "loaned" Bill B to the Pats.  I can see it happening. 

[JT39]

I'll bump this.

I'll edit in keeping Bowen. He's got caught up in a xxxx sandwich.

[DaveBrown74]

I'll bump this.

I'll edit in keeping Bowen. He's got caught up in a xxxx sandwich.

If you're firing Daboll you can't tell your new HC who his DC has to be. No sound owner/GM would ever do that.

[JT39]

If you're firing Daboll you can't tell your new HC who his DC has to be. No sound owner/GM would ever do that.

Agreed. But I just don't want him listed with the other 3 clowns who have messed up this team probably worse than Gettleman.