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Are Schoen and Daboll the answer?

Started by MightyGiants, September 16, 2024, 08:19:17 AM

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spiderblue43

Kart,

Its coaching malpractice twice with this Gano stuff. Its a fireable offense to me that shows incompetence, or the ability to understand certain contingencies. Coaches cannot blow ballgames with their arrogance or lack of due diligence. Inexcusable.

TDToomer

Quote from: kartanoman on September 16, 2024, 02:25:01 PMTERRIBLE KICKOFF!!!

EVEN WORSE PAT!!!

The Scottish "Clunker" must have forgotten to eat his bangers and mash yesterday because he couldn't place-kick the broad side of a barn!

As for nobody dressing two kickers, Jim Fassel absolutely had to back in the 2000 season when Brad Daluiso returned from his knee injury. He could kick FGs on the new Giants Stadium turf; however his kickoffs were agonizingly short. So, the Giants brought in Jaret Holmes to  do the kickoffs for a few games and I believe one or two games as the FG kicker as well. It helped preserve Daluiso's leg through the playoffs but the writing was on the wall that his career was likely done after the Super Bowl XXXV loss. The knee injury against the Cowboys in 1999 completely devastated his kicking leg and he'd never be the same again.

Unfortunately, I believe Gano may very well be along the same path as Daluiso. A great kicker, powerful and accurate leg, on pace to dethrone the legendary Pete Gogolak as the All-Time Giants' Scoring Leader, then an injury derails everything.

Just a sad and most unfortunate outcome for Gano whom I wanted badly to break the scoring record.

Now, will the Giants give Jude McAtamney his chance to be the guy?

Peace!

Fair enough. I forgot about Jarrett Holmes. Dan Reeves also used a roster spot for David Treadwell for FG/PAT and Daluiso for kickoffs until the later proved he could do both.

Most punters probably handled PK in high school and should be able to chip in something PAT length. Is it possible that Gillem never learned place kicking in Scotland like an American born and raised punter would?
"It's extra special against Dallas. That's absolutely a team I can't stand. I've been hating Dallas ever since I knew anything about football." - Brandon Jacobs

kartanoman

Quote from: TDToomer on September 16, 2024, 02:41:17 PMFair enough. I forgot about Jarrett Holmes. Dan Reeves also used a roster spot for David Treadwell for FG/PAT and Daluiso for kickoffs until the later proved he could do both.

Most punters probably handled PK in high school and should be able to chip in something PAT length. Is it possible that Gillem never learned place kicking in Scotland like an American born and raised punter would?

Yes, good call on Reeves having Treadwell in 1993-94 as the "short FG kicker" with Daluiso handling kickoffs and the long FGs. Once Daluiso managed to improve his overall accuracy, Treadwell was then expendable. Daluiso became one of the most accurate long-distance kickers in the mid-to-late 1990s and one I felt could have given Tom Dempsey a run at breaking the then-record of 63 yards for the longest FG ever. But once he injured his knee on that final play against Dallas on MNF in 1999, his career and his leg strength fizzled out.

I also remember during the pre-season in 1985 the Sheikh had issues with his hamstring and both Gary Reasons AND Sean Landeta tried out for the kicking role. Both went at it with the old "straight-ahead" approach. After that, Parcells found Eric Schubert who did well enough that he was signed mid-way, during the season, and had a memorable five-for-five FG debut in the Giants' win over Tampa Bay at Giants Stadium. Of course, his final kick for the Giants was the infamous clunker off the left upright at Soldier Field in Chicago, from 19 yards out, just before halftime, in the 0-21 Bears' Divisional Playoff win.

Parcells went through five kickers before finding Raul Allegre who provided some degree of stability in leading up to the 1986 Championship season. He stayed healthy for that season and 1987 before he became injured every season there-after, and Parcells was back on the kicker Merry-Go-Round again until he found Matt Bahr who was his money kicker who helped him win Super Bowl XXV in 1990.

The very last thing we want to see is the same Merry-Go-Round that Parcells went through and that Daboll endured last year when five kickers were signed and four actually played in 2023.

Peace!


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