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PFF Heroes and Goats

Started by MightyGiants, September 16, 2024, 12:57:31 PM

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MightyGiants

OFFENSE

Heroes

Malik Nabers (elite)
Andrew Thomas

Goats

Theo Johnson
(Van Rotten just missed with a 50.1)

DJ had a 71.4


DEFENSE

Heroes

Micah McFadden
Brian Burns
Dexter Lawrence

Goats

Jason Pinnock

(Chatman just missed with a 50.8)


SMART, TOUGH, DEPENDABLE

JT39

There is no way in the WORLD that Burns played well enough to be a hero. I am sorry.

And Dru Phillips not being there is a reason why PFF loses credibility to me.

MrGap92

Curious, how has Nubin graded? He played 100% of snaps both weeks but haven't exactly heard his name called for good or bad.

MrGap92

Quote from: JT39 on September 16, 2024, 01:00:46 PMThere is no way in the WORLD that Burns played well enough to be a hero. I am sorry.

And Dru Phillips not being there is a reason why PFF loses credibility to me.

I agree that PFF isn't the best resource, but sacks aren't everything.

JT39

Quote from: MrGap92 on September 16, 2024, 01:03:08 PMI agree that PFF isn't the best resource, but sacks aren't everything.

Well he didnt stop the run or get any pressure either.

MightyGiants

Quote from: JT39 on September 16, 2024, 01:00:46 PMThere is no way in the WORLD that Burns played well enough to be a hero. I am sorry.

And Dru Phillips not being there is a reason why PFF loses credibility to me.

Interestingly enough PFF Burns ranked 46th among edge rusher with a 11.6% pass rush win rate percentage
SMART, TOUGH, DEPENDABLE

MightyGiants

Quote from: MrGap92 on September 16, 2024, 01:02:28 PMCurious, how has Nubin graded? He played 100% of snaps both weeks but haven't exactly heard his name called for good or bad.

Yesterday he had a 64.8

Game one- 58.3

60.0 is the baseline every player starts with
SMART, TOUGH, DEPENDABLE

H-Town G-Fan

Quote from: JT39 on September 16, 2024, 01:00:46 PMThere is no way in the WORLD that Burns played well enough to be a hero. I am sorry.

And Dru Phillips not being there is a reason why PFF loses credibility to me.

Dru had a 70.7. That's a solid score. Looks like they dinged him for 2 missed tackles and allowing 5 completions on 7 targets.

JT39

Quote from: H-Town G-Fan on September 16, 2024, 01:11:41 PMDru had a 70.7. That's a solid score. Looks like they dinged him for 2 missed tackles and allowing 5 completions on 7 targets.

Thats what I find amusing that they knock him for 2 missed tackles when Burns for 99.9% of the game was out of position to even make a tackle.  =))

Hadron

Quote from: MightyGiants on September 16, 2024, 12:57:31 PMOFFENSE

Heroes

Malik Nabers (elite)
Andrew Thomas

Goats

Theo Johnson
(Van Rotten just missed with a 50.1)

DJ had a 71.4


DEFENSE

Heroes

Micah McFadden
Brian Burns
Dexter Lawrence

Goats

Jason Pinnock

(Chatman just missed with a 50.8)




Wait - I thought Brian Burns was a FA bust??

MightyGiants

Quote from: Hadron on September 16, 2024, 01:45:00 PMWait - I thought Brian Burns was a FA bust??

He is, in my opinion.  PFF clearly believes otherwise
SMART, TOUGH, DEPENDABLE

TDToomer

I don't think Burns is the problem or a mistake. He is learning a new system. He had a few key 3rd down run stuffs on one of the too many to count trips to our red zone.

Pinnock had 2 sacks as a safety and got the lowest PFF score. You can't make this up.
"It's extra special against Dallas. That's absolutely a team I can't stand. I've been hating Dallas ever since I knew anything about football." - Brandon Jacobs

Trench

What did Theo do to garner being a goat? He wasn't targeted that I can remember.

Guys who played well and should be on the hero list for this game:
1. Jones
2. JMS
3. Singletary
4. Phillips
5. Banks

MrGap92

Quote from: Trench on September 16, 2024, 03:54:13 PMWhat did Theo do to garner being a goat? He wasn't targeted that I can remember.

Guys who played well and should be on the hero list for this game:
1. Jones
2. JMS
3. Singletary
4. Phillips
5. Banks

Singletary had a good game, I don't think anyone can be mad at him for the fumble, it was a good run, he was holding the ball fine, just a damn good play by the defender that punched it out.

Stringer Bell

Quote from: MrGap92 on September 16, 2024, 03:56:54 PMSingletary had a good game, I don't think anyone can be mad at him for the fumble, it was a good run, he was holding the ball fine, just a damn good play by the defender that punched it out.

Singletary did have a good game, but we absolutely can be mad at him for the fumble.

He was not holding the ball fine. Had he secured it "tip to tip" and tight to his body, there's no way that ball is getting punched out. It was sloppy and otherwise negated what had been a solid showing.