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Daboll took accountability week 1 and adjusted the offense

Started by Uncle Mickey, September 17, 2024, 05:42:49 PM

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Uncle Mickey

We saw a drastically more confident offense from DJ to the running game to the WRs.

This was closer to 2022 when it was simpler reads, more designed plays to get guys open, and relying on the play-calling more-so than the QB having to decipher too much stuff on the field and be perfect.

Loved what Daboll did this week at least from a play-calling standpoint on offense!

That said it's one game. We need to see DJ build on this moving forward. However now I am confident Daboll has realized what he really needs to do for this offense to be it's most successful with DJ as it's QB.

 How much fruit that will bear is something we must wait and see.

Can DJ bring it against a good defense? Well with a better blocking OL and play-calling designed to certain guys open in routes as the primary read more often , it's at least more possible than we may have thought previous.

Ed Vette

If he's protected, he can be lethal. That along with his legs will turn this Offense around. Put pressure on him and he folds. The key is the Oline.
"There is a greater purpose...that purpose is team. Winning, losing, playing hard, playing well, doing it for each other, winning the right way, winning the right way is a very important thing to me... Championships are won by teams who love one another, who respect one another, and play for and support one another."
~ Coach Tom Coughlin

Jclayton92

Quote from: Ed Vette on September 17, 2024, 06:08:16 PMIf he's protected, he can be lethal. That along with his legs will turn this Offense around. Put pressure on him and he folds. The key is the Oline.
Would you trade a 5th for Bryce Young just to see what he has?

LennG

Quote from: Ed Vette on September 17, 2024, 06:08:16 PMIf he's protected, he can be lethal. That along with his legs will turn this Offense around. Put pressure on him and he folds. The key is the Oline.

Are we talking about the same Daniel Jones? 

Lethal is a tall order.
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Ed Vette

Quote from: Jclayton92 on September 17, 2024, 06:18:15 PMWould you trade a 5th for Bryce Young just to see what he has?
A fifth is like a UFA to me. Miami should make that happen. He might flourish there. I haven't see Young in a game yet since he's been drafted.
"There is a greater purpose...that purpose is team. Winning, losing, playing hard, playing well, doing it for each other, winning the right way, winning the right way is a very important thing to me... Championships are won by teams who love one another, who respect one another, and play for and support one another."
~ Coach Tom Coughlin

Ed Vette

Quote from: LennG on September 17, 2024, 07:39:54 PMAre we talking about the same Daniel Jones? 

Lethal is a tall order.
Well, then we disagree. His clock just runs a second slow.
"There is a greater purpose...that purpose is team. Winning, losing, playing hard, playing well, doing it for each other, winning the right way, winning the right way is a very important thing to me... Championships are won by teams who love one another, who respect one another, and play for and support one another."
~ Coach Tom Coughlin

coggs

Quote from: Uncle Mickey on September 17, 2024, 05:42:49 PMWe saw a drastically more confident offense from DJ to the running game to the WRs.

This was closer to 2022 when it was simpler reads, more designed plays to get guys open, and relying on the play-calling more-so than the QB having to decipher too much stuff on the field and be perfect.

Loved what Daboll did this week at least from a play-calling standpoint on offense!

That said it's one game. We need to see DJ build on this moving forward. However now I am confident Daboll has realized what he really needs to do for this offense to be it's most successful with DJ as it's QB.

 How much fruit that will bear is something we must wait and see.

Can DJ bring it against a good defense? Well with a better blocking OL and play-calling designed to certain guys open in routes as the primary read more often , it's at least more possible than we may have thought previous.
If they are relying on play-calling moreso than the QB to make reads and plays, well then they can get a journeyman vet for less than $10MM in cap space to do the same.

Uncle Mickey

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Quote from: coggs on September 17, 2024, 08:14:22 PMIf they are relying on play-calling moreso than the QB to make reads and plays, well then they can get a journeyman vet for less than $10MM in cap space to do the same.

There are a number of pretty good QBs in the NFL that run somewhat 'simpler' offenses.  Hurts , Goff, Mayfield etc.

It kind of a combination of just figuring out what works best for your QB and doing your best to construct that environment around him.

My best guess here but I really think Daboll quickly realized the stuff he was trying to run with DJ was not ideal and kind of went more like 2022. Not an exact analogy but the adjusting to stuff the guys can just go out and ball really paid off (at least last week)

Lets see if they build on this.

Also if he makes Bowen do the same thing might now be in order too! Not necessarily simplify but to get tighten that soft zone stuff . Its Tim Lewis maddening!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


JT39

Quote from: Jclayton92 on September 17, 2024, 06:18:15 PMWould you trade a 5th for Bryce Young just to see what he has?

Yes. He's cheap and cost control then. It's a no brainerZ I would even consider a third.

DaveBrown74

Quote from: Ed Vette on September 17, 2024, 07:51:14 PMHis clock just runs a second slow.

As we both know a second is an absolute eternity in this context.

Uncle Mickey

My take on Daboll is he is desperate and looked at that defensive performance again on tape and probably puked.

If he was quick to make adjustments to how he schemed the offense after week 1 , I bet after those 2 defensive performances he will be in Bowen's office basically demanding changes.

A obvious one I believe will be tighter coverage not just more man but the zones and off coverage looks won't be nearly as wide gapped as before.

Let's see if this is the case as the Browns will no doubt be a tougher test than the Redskins.

Gman329

I believe the Week 1 disaster was largely Flores absolutely confounding Daboll and DJ from beginning to end.  When DJ dropped back to throw, he didn't see anything like what he prepared for while watching film all week.   

Uncle Mickey

Quote from: Gman329 on September 19, 2024, 09:41:34 AMI believe the Week 1 disaster was largely Flores absolutely confounding Daboll and DJ from beginning to end.  When DJ dropped back to throw, he didn't see anything like what he prepared for while watching film all week.   

After watching what Minny did to the Niners this could absolutely be part of the reason too. Flores has been coaching lights out so far.