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Started by sxdxca38, October 03, 2024, 08:49:11 PM

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Philosophers

#30
October 06, 2024, 12:28:48 AM
Quote from: TDToomer on October 05, 2024, 05:11:01 PM100% I love this post!
Quote from: kartanoman on October 05, 2024, 02:13:41 PMYour points are fair and it is up to both of these guys to step up and gel with the rest of the front four. They're making some progress but much more is needed and expected of them.

Interesting that you bring up Amani Toomer and the term underperforming. I've always been a big fan of Amani from the first time I watched him, which was a pre-season game against the new Ravens team in Giants Stadium where he had a few big plays. Reeves had him in a primarily punt returning role where he was excellent for a couple of seasons before Fassel started turning him loose. It really wasn't until Kerry Collins took over at QB which was when Amani truly broke out and became the team leading wideout. Had Ike Hilliard not been injured so much throughout his Giant career, I think those two could have been nearly as good as the Rams receivers of the day. Jurevicius wasn't too bad either. But watching Kerry and Amani in 2000-2002 was about as great a tandem as I've seen in Giants' history until Eli and Plax. Even then, Eli to Amani made for some of the great catches in Giants' history as well.

So, I've never believed Amani underperformed. Instead, he was brought up a little slower. Didn't he have injuries early in his career? But from 1998, onward, he was the Giants' big play threat which lasted until 2005 when Plax was signed. Still, he was always there to provide reliable support for Eli.

Peace!

I liked Toomer but always thought good CBs took him out of a game.  It was mot until we got Plax that I thought we finally had a WR who could beat elite CBs.

TDToomer

#31
October 06, 2024, 03:32:46 PM
Quote from: Philosophers on October 06, 2024, 12:28:48 AMI liked Toomer but always thought good CBs took him out of a game.  It was mot until we got Plax that I thought we finally had a WR who could beat elite CBs.

What about the 2002 season when he was 3rd in the NFL in receiving yards?
"It's extra special against Dallas. That's absolutely a team I can't stand. I've been hating Dallas ever since I knew anything about football." - Brandon Jacobs

Trench

#32
October 06, 2024, 03:53:59 PM
These two guys had better each get a sack today if not 2 each.

Philosophers

#33
October 06, 2024, 04:26:53 PM
Quote from: TDToomer on October 06, 2024, 03:32:46 PMWhat about the 2002 season when he was 3rd in the NFL in receiving yards?

You are right it was a great year. 

MrGap92

#34
October 06, 2024, 07:34:57 PM
Burns showed his value today. Him and Thibs bith got in the sack count too

Trench

#35
October 06, 2024, 08:28:01 PM
Quote from: MrGap92 on October 06, 2024, 07:34:57 PMBurns showed his value today. Him and Thibs bith got in the sack count too

Thibs not so much. He was one on one handled most of game. At this point he continues to be subpar in my mind
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