Since Minnesota, Daboll and Bowen have been calling some really great games

[Uncle Mickey]

-The way Daboll has been scheming the #1 WR open has been absolutely what elite coaches do. We thought all was lost without Nabers this week. Nope. He called a fantastic game for Slayton. Back in 2022 he was famous for showing 'eye candy' and getting a team to think we were going to do one thing and then do something completely different as well as being very quick to pick up the defensive weakness in formations and continuously exploiting it. We are seeing this again since the Minny game and Daniel has responded with pretty good to elite games in basically every game since then.

-Bowen has been mixing pressure up front masterfully. Also mostly gone are most of the terribly soft zones with more aggressive mix of man and zone on the back end. Also alot of pressure packages to force single blocking on Dex and the results have been extraordinary. We have a DT that has 6 sacks in 5 games. A DT.

- I am seeing a conscious effort of rather than trying to force a player to adjust to what the coaches may sometimes prefer to run, that when a player is struggling they will adjust the scheme to what the player is more comfortable doing. Case in point, Banks man coverage has been somewhat off this year constantly going up against the other teams #1 but his zone has been much higher graded. Last game he played a lot of zone coverage vs DK and had his best game of the year.



Other observations of note:

-While Slayton and Wan'Dale have started playing well after a slow start , neither have shown to be sure handed receivers. Between those to there were 5-6 drops in the last game alone with some really key 3rd down drops by Wan'Dale pretty much all year. THis has killed some very promising drives which would have made DJs performances shine even more.

-Carmen Bracillo might be the MVP of this team. Yes, even over Nabers. This OL looks better than it has in a decade plus. Last 10 years the best we could hope for was a stalemate in run blocking most of the time with our RBs barely squeezing through small holes and often having to dance around multiple defenders not blocked immediately in the backfield. Now we are seeing our OL push most DLs actually backwards as well as some fantastic sized holes in the run game. And screens? When is the last time the Giants could ever execute a screen play? Probably back in the Tiki days with Pat Flaherty as our OL coach. It's been a long time.

[Ed Vette]

Good post.
Now let's take Jalin out of the closet.

[AZGiantFan]

Good post.
Now let's take Jalin out of the closet.

It's weird.  First very few snaps and only an occasional target.  This game, lots of snaps (48, 67%) but not a single target.  I don't get it, but there's a lot I don't get and a lot I don't know.  Hard to argue with success.

[Gmo11]

This team is close. They are moving in the right direction and I think they have the right people in charge. If they can upgrade Jones who admittedly hasn't been awful but also hasn't been great... This team will make some noise.

[Sem]

It's amazing how much better the play calling is when you have competent 
players executing the plays, (I'm looking at the O-Line in particular). But overall I agree with the premise of the thread.

[Philosophers]

I think the Giants could sure use some soft, 100% catching pair of hands from a WR and that guy is Jalin Hyatt. 

[President Rick]

I know it's water under the bridge, but we woulda, coulda, shoulda have won all 5 games.

[Uncle Mickey]

It's amazing how much better the play calling is when you have competent 
players executing the plays, (I'm looking at the O-Line in particular). But overall I agree with the premise of the thread.

Daboll's playcalling has been brilliant. When he is at his best like we saw in 2022, you see calls that continuously confuse the defense. Both in the run game and the pass game.

[T200]

Daboll's playcalling has been brilliant. When he is at his best like we saw in 2022, you see calls that continuously confuse the defense. Both in the run game and the pass game.

And his detractors 

[jimc]

They better dial up their A games for the Bengals. I think this game will be huge for this team. Bengals are desperate and if the Gmen can win, it will be BIG.

[Giant Obsession]

16th ranked defense

20th ranked offense

27th ranked scoring offense

NO TD's at home, in fact we seem allergic to even running plays in the sacred end zone.

Losing record, last in division.

Winless in division.

Personally, I would hold off the bouquets for another 7 or 8 games.  Win some division games before anointing anything about this team.

[katkavage]

They better dial up their A games for the Bengals. I think this game will be huge for this team. Bengals are desperate and if the Gmen can win, it will be BIG.

It's a very good match up for the Giants. The Bengals defense is bad. And their offensive line is bad. Those play to the Giants strengths. But the wild card is Burrow. He is very good and they have good receivers. Giants need to pressure him constantly or it will be rough. I see a very close, high scoring game.

[Ed Vette]

It's amazing how much better the play calling is when you have competent 
players executing the plays, (I'm looking at the O-Line in particular). But overall I agree with the premise of the thread.

Preparing and training the players to execute a play is just as important as the play design.

[Sem]

Preparing and training the players to execute a play is just as important as the play design.

Undoubtedly. I was in no way diminishing Daboll and staff's influence. It's a two-way street. And I'd even throw in confidence, both the player's confidence in their coaching staff, as well as confidence in themselves. But as the saying goes, "you can't make chicken salad out of chicken xxxx." Looking at the O-Line in particular, the addition of Bricillo plus the influx of new players has so far, done wonders for this season's play of the O-Line. While watching Bobby Skinner break down their play, it was refreshing to see them actually be able to successfully handle stunts on a more consistent basis. However nothing I've seen over the past couple years has given me the assurance that Evan Neal would be as effective as Jermaine Eluemunor has been at RT.

[Ed Vette]

Undoubtedly. I was in no way diminishing Daboll and staff's influence. It's a two-way street. And I'd even throw in confidence, both the player's confidence in their coaching staff, as well as confidence in themselves. But as the saying goes, "you can't make chicken salad out of chicken xxxx." Looking at the O-Line in particular, the addition of Bricillo plus the influx of new players has so far, done wonders for this season's play of the O-Line. While watching Bobby Skinner break down their play, it was refreshing to see them actually be able to successfully handle stunts on a more consistent basis. However nothing I've seen over the past couple years has given me the assurance that Evan Neal would be as effective as Jermaine Eluemunor has been at RT.

Absolutely. Ever wonder why the players who left here became successful Oline players on other teams? Seems they had the ability all along.