I haven't been sold on it before, but I think the Giants need to hire Belichick

[Brooklyn Dave]

The obvious and by far the best choice for the next HC of the Giants is Ben Johnson. Unfortuately he probably would never come here especially with the QB uncertainty. If Dallas does not make the playoffs or loses early , Johnson would be obvioius choice for the next Cowboy HC.

[Painter]

Belichick was a decent DC with the Giants with Erhardt running the Offense and Parcells running the team, but that was nearly 40 years ago. He showed little as a HC in 5 years with Cleveland until he lucked out with Brady and the Pats who made him a hero for the next 20 years. But that was then and not otherwise or since or now.

If I was going to go backward, I'd rather do so with Tom Coughlin. No, not with either. Didn't I just hear someone say, "We are not going back"?

Cheers!

[miss86]

BB as our HC? Are you people smoking something else than tobacco?

[AZGiantFan]

There's a big difference between seeing that the Giants have a need and thinking that the need can be met by a guy who has been a mediocre, to put it nicely, drafter of players and has never really had anyone in his coaching tree be a real success, let alone an outstanding success, come in to develop and mentor his own successor.

[MightyGiants]

Belichick was a decent DC with the Giants with Erhardt running the Offense and Parcells running the team, but that was nearly 40 years ago. He showed little as a HC in 5 years with Cleveland until he lucked out with Brady and the Pats who made him a hero for the next 20 years. But that was then and not otherwise or since or now.

If I was going to going to go backward, I'd rather do so with Tom Coughlin. No, not with either. Didn't I just hear someone say, "We are not going back"?

Cheers!

Larry,

I don't think that is a particularly fair accounting of Belichick's career.  First off, the Giants wouldn't have won these two Super Bowls if not for the elite defenses Belichick coached (Erhardt was okay as OC, but in both Super Bowls, they rode their defenses, not the offense).

As for Cleveland, he was turning things around prior to being fired.   I don't think you can describe developing a 6th-round QB prospect into the GOAT as "luck." 

I will say one thing that hurt Belichick during the years was it was difficult for him to constantly restock his coaching staffs with the elite talent.  Belichick really leaned heavily on O-line coach (and often assistant HC) Dante Scarnecchia, who was perhaps the greatest of all time.   I looked at BB's staffs over the years.   They went from really good coaches to the end having clowns like Matt Patricia and Joe Judge running the offense.   That's why I wanted to boost BB's chances by letting him keep the more talented assistants currently assembled.

As for coaches, I don't know many NFL coaches who have successfully been the OC and the DC as Belichick has.  That demonstrates is generational brilliance.  Even the failure of his coaching tree can be traced (n my opinion) to that brilliance.  It's hard to copy BB's coaching style, which requires one to "be a brilliant football mind." That isn't a formula. That's a personal trait.

[Leek21]

BB as our HC? Are you people smoking something else than tobacco?

We would be lucky to get him as the HC.  Just like we were lucky to have Barkley all those years.

[Painter]

Fair or not Rich, you'll have a hellova time mustering a consensus should such matter to you.

Cheers!

[miss86]

We would be lucky to get him as the HC.  Just like we were lucky to have Barkley all those years.

That is your opinion. I don't think BB as HC would be an upgrade. I have not seen any improvement in the Pat after the GOAT Brady left. He sent us JJ for goodness sake. I'm a big NO on BB for our HC.

[Fletch]

It's kind of strange to note his QB selections. I think Mac Jones was his first QB he drafted in the 1st round.

I believe he soured on him though -- and set out to spite FO and Kraft who wanted to keep him and, put him in a possible bad light. His other QB selection was Garappollo (SP?)

I am not sure how I feel about a Bill being coach here. On the one hand I just cannot help but think h is done, and on the Mannings MNF simulcast -- while he knows football inside out -- I just watch and listen to him and, cannot help but think he is just another armchair QB. On the other hand, I am not sure what kind of coach Baboll is.

I remember everyone ready to roast coach Garrett for the conservative humdrum play calling and plays , but then it looks like Daboll pretty much picked up where he left off.

At the end of the day I would call it a net positive. Even if he isn't a coach he was once and the game changed ; he would still keep Mara's in check I believe and cut / bench Jones in a nanosecond and no one will say peep.

[Fletch]

That is your opinion. I don't think BB as HC would be an upgrade. I have not seen any improvement in the Pat after the GOAT Brady left. He sent us JJ for goodness sake. I'm a big NO on BB for our HC.

Then again I have not seen any improvement in Pat since Goat Bellichek left.

[Painter]

Belichick (82-98 w/o Brady) ain't happening, not for the Giants and not likely for any other NFL team except possibly as a "consultant" if it pays him more than the Manningcast and/or the "Yuck!" Pat McAfee show.

Cheers!

[Fletch]

We would be lucky to get him as the HC.  Just like we were lucky to have Barkley all those years.

So true. I mean he was 31-33 with the Browns; so why would anyone in their right mind hire BB to coach the Patriots and bench a #1 overall draft pick to start a 6th round player?

[y_so_blu]

BB as our HC? Are you people smoking something else than tobacco?

Yes. We're smoking ten losing seasons in the last twelve years and we're sick of the taste.

Belichick is an old grouch but even if you take Brady out of the equation, he had winning seasons with Matt Cassell and Mac Jones. He went 7-9 with a washed Cam Newton. That's coaching on a higher level than anything we're accustomed to.

[TDToomer]

We would be lucky to get him as the HC.  Just like we were lucky to have Barkley all those years.

Luck had nothing to do with having Barkley for 6 seasons. Finishing with the 2nd worst record in the entire league in 2017 did.

[MightyGiants]

Luck had nothing to do with having Barkley for 6 seasons. Finishing with the 2nd worst record in the entire league in 2017 did.

Bad luck had Gettleman drafting Barkley instead of Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson.  Although in fairness both QBs may have been busts if they were forced to develop on the Giants teams at the time