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T200

#15
October 29, 2024, 03:28:12 PM
Quote from: GloryDays on October 29, 2024, 03:22:02 PMtHE DOWNFALL OF sCHOEN and his regime will be the result of his clear ineptitude in O line talent recognition.
This is the best the offensive line has looked in the last 10 years. And aside from Thomas, has been healthy.
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todge

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October 29, 2024, 03:32:13 PM
Quote from: Ed Vette on October 29, 2024, 12:02:17 PMHubbard- 9.2 Pass Blocking, 91.0 Run Blocking
Unbelievable. Jones didn't just get hit, he got smashed numerous occasions and often by two players . Aikman pointed out several times that he was amazed Jones was still playing after that beating.


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GloryDays

#17
October 29, 2024, 03:46:50 PM
Quote from: T200 on October 29, 2024, 03:28:12 PMThis is the best the offensive line has looked in the last 10 years. And aside from Thomas, has been healthy.

They look a bit improved inspite of their lack of talent. My guess is the improvement is due to the much better O line coach; however, it's been 3 years now, under this regime, that the O line keeps failing. They are the most glaring problem for this team. KC revamped their O line after a super Bowl and they improved, winning championships. How many high picks and other resources have they dedicated and the unit is still not that good with such mediocre depth?!!

MightyGiants

#18
October 29, 2024, 03:47:04 PM
Quote from: T200 on October 29, 2024, 03:28:12 PMThis is the best the offensive line has looked in the last 10 years. And aside from Thomas, has been healthy.

Yes, but it came at a price, Saquon Barkley.  If Schoen hadn't done such a poor job drafting O-linemen, they wouldn't have had to sign multiple mid-tier veteran O-linemen and that money could then have been used to retain Barkley
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T200

#19
October 29, 2024, 03:57:35 PM
Quote from: MightyGiants on October 29, 2024, 03:47:04 PMYes, but it came at a price, Saquon Barkley.  If Schoen hadn't done such a poor job drafting O-linemen, they wouldn't have had to sign multiple mid-tier veteran O-linemen and that money could then have been used to retain Barkley
Everything comes at a price.

Do you think this team would be better with Saquon?
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T200

#20
October 29, 2024, 03:58:15 PM
Quote from: GloryDays on October 29, 2024, 03:46:50 PMThey look a bit improved inspite of their lack of talent. My guess is the improvement is due to the much better O line coach; however, it's been 3 years now, under this regime, that the O line keeps failing. They are the most glaring problem for this team. KC revamped their O line after a super Bowl and they improved, winning championships. How many high picks and other resources have they dedicated and the unit is still not that good with such mediocre depth?!!
Where is the line failing this season?

The most glaring problem is the QB, not the line.
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MightyGiants

#21
October 29, 2024, 03:59:55 PM
Quote from: T200 on October 29, 2024, 03:57:35 PMEverything comes at a price.

Do you think this team would be better with Saquon?


Maybe, Saquon was pretty sure-handed, but that is not something that can be said of Singletary or Gray.  I can't give a firm answer because Tracy has played well.
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T200

#22
October 29, 2024, 04:01:34 PM
Quote from: MightyGiants on October 29, 2024, 03:59:55 PMMaybe, Saquon was pretty sure-handed, but that is not something that can be said of Singletary or Gray.  I can't give a firm answer because Tracy has played well.
I guess I remember Saquon's hands differently than you  :laugh:

He was good but not great at catching passes.

Regardless of Tracy's progress, if you put Saquon back on this team at the beginning of the season, is our record the same or better?
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MightyGiants

#23
October 29, 2024, 04:52:35 PM
Quote from: T200 on October 29, 2024, 04:01:34 PMI guess I remember Saquon's hands differently than you  :laugh:

He was good but not great at catching passes.

Regardless of Tracy's progress, if you put Saquon back on this team at the beginning of the season, is our record the same or better?

I was talking about fumbles
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LennG

#24
October 29, 2024, 07:55:45 PM
Quote from: Ed Vette on October 29, 2024, 12:02:17 PMHubbard- 9.2 Pass Blocking, 91.0 Run Blocking

Ian Allen resurrected.
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expatriot

#25
October 30, 2024, 10:56:35 AM
Scouting needs to be revamped and Schoen needs to stop just collecting players and build a team around a philosophy....  whatever it is. NO ID for this bunch of misfits.

Giantleap56

#26
October 30, 2024, 11:06:45 AM
The list is long Neal, Hyatt and Bellinger. These guys have disappeared in the Daboll system. Once again the biggest problem. If it weren't for Allen who didn't go crazy until Ken Dorsey became his QB coach this guy would never be a HC.

Philosophers

#27
October 30, 2024, 11:38:03 AM
Quote from: Giantleap56 on October 30, 2024, 11:06:45 AMThe list is long Neal, Hyatt and Bellinger. These guys have disappeared in the Daboll system. Once again the biggest problem. If it weren't for Allen who didn't go crazy until Ken Dorsey became his QB coach this guy would never be a HC.

I never felt like Dabs was the reason for success anywhere, not the Bills, Bama, etc.  Road the coattails of others.
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