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PFF Heroes and Goats for the Steelers game

Started by MightyGiants, October 29, 2024, 12:52:50 PM

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MightyGiants

OFFENSE

Heroes

Greg Van Roten

Goats

Chris Hubbard

Tracy- 73.0
DJ- 64.4

DEFENSE

Heroes

Bobby Okereke
Micah McFadden
Greg Stroman Jr.

Goats

Deonte Banks
Rakeem Nunez-Roches
Jason Pinnock
SMART, TOUGH, DEPENDABLE

MrGap92

Wonder what Tracy got dinged for, he had a great game.

kingm56

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Quote from: MrGap92 on October 29, 2024, 01:19:55 PMWonder what Tracy got dinged for, he had a great game.

He's a young player; from my perspective, his pass pro could be better, which takes time to learn.  There were also two drop passes. 

EDjohnst1981

Quote from: kingm56 on October 29, 2024, 01:33:34 PMHe's a young player; from my perspective, his pass pro could be better, which takes time to learn.  There were also two drop passes. 

I'll be honest, if he's putting up 140 yards a game. I couldn't care less about his pass protection.

Points to the folly of these grades - not with standing I appreciate Rich's efforts and I find them interesting.

MightyGiants

Quote from: kingm56 on October 29, 2024, 01:33:34 PMHe's a young player; from my perspective, his pass pro could be better, which takes time to learn.  There were also two drop passes. 

@MrGap92

This is correct

His rushing grade (80.4) was dragged down by his pass blocking (46.9) and receiving (38.8)
SMART, TOUGH, DEPENDABLE

Sem

Quote from: MightyGiants on October 29, 2024, 02:09:34 PM@MrGap92

This is correct

His rushing grade (80.4) was dragged down by his pass blocking (46.9) and receiving (38.8)
There were quite a few drops last night, across the board. Far far too many penalties also.

MightyGiants

Quote from: Sem on October 29, 2024, 02:17:22 PMThere were quite a few drops last night, across the board. Far far too many penalties also.

Drops have been plaguing this team all year
SMART, TOUGH, DEPENDABLE

kingm56

Quote from: Sem on October 29, 2024, 02:17:22 PMThere were quite a few drops last night, across the board. Far far too many penalties also.

Very true, Sem; some of those we're just going to accept as a byproduct of being a very young football team.  Nabers, Tracy, and Theo should be afforded some time to adjust to the NFL game.

todge

Quote from: MightyGiants on October 29, 2024, 12:52:50 PMOFFENSE

Heroes

Greg Van Roten

Goats

Chris Hubbard

Tracy- 73.0
DJ- 64.4

DEFENSE

Heroes

Bobby Okereke
Micah McFadden
Greg Stroman Jr.

Goats

Deonte Banks
Rakeem Nunez-Roches
Jason Pinnock
Rich - what was Chris Hubbard's score? He was horrific in pass protection often not even so much as touching his man. Wondering how he graded out in run blocking


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MightyGiants

Quote from: GloryDays on October 29, 2024, 03:24:44 PMIs that talent issue or coaching?

Probably a little of both.  Drops are often an indication of a lack of attention to detail or lack of concentration.  It can also be an indicator of a player's lack of ability.  With so many players dropping balls, I think it's an organizational rather than an individual issue.

When a RB who was a former WR is suffering the drops, it makes one wonder
SMART, TOUGH, DEPENDABLE

MrGap92

Quote from: kingm56 on October 29, 2024, 03:05:52 PMVery true, Sem; some of those we're just going to accept as a byproduct of being a very young football team.  Nabers, Tracy, and Theo should be afforded some time to adjust to the NFL game.

We should give them all 6 years minimum to make sure they are the future of this team.

kingm56


Sem

In my opinion many of the drops last night were from a lapse of concentration.

LennG

Ted. we agree. Hubbard reminded me of Ian Allen, a regular turnstile to the QB. There were several rushes where he never even laid a hand on the defender. Please don't insult my intelligence by saying it he only had a few days of practice. He is a professional football player, who has played LT before. It should come naturally, nothing you have to learn.
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