DJ told Nabers he couldn't see the open receivers because of the defenders in

[Trench]

The coach said it was bad coaching

The QB said he didn't see the open receivers

The receiver said there was a lot going on in front of DJ

To be frank, I don't know what you are talking about

Perhaps I'm reading the whole thing wrong but it appears you are trying to minimize or justify to a degree the fact that Jones missed in and messed up the entire play and I see we will need to agree to disagree on this play is all.

[MightyGiants]

Perhaps I'm reading the whole thing wrong but it appears you are trying to minimize or justify to a degree the fact that Jones missed in and messed up the entire play and I see we will need to agree to disagree on this play is all.

There are more than enough plays to criticize Jones for. I am not going to give the HC a free pass, especially since he admitted fault for calling a flea flicker on 3rd and 1. He would have been better served with a play-action pass.

[Trench]

There are more than enough plays to criticize Jones for. I am not going to give the HC a free pass, especially since he admitted fault for calling a flea flicker on 3rd and 1. He would have been better served with a play-action pass.

Or a run play to tracy 😂😂😂

[T200]

There is more than a fraction of a second though. His ability to look downfield doesn't start when he has the ball in his hands. It starts as Tracy is running up the middle. And I'm sorry dude, but the argument here can't be that the linemen are too big to see over. He has to be able to see that.

He's 6'5", not 5'11" 

[MightyGiants]

Or a run play to tracy 😂😂😂

I am not a huge fan of going for the big play on third an short.  At that point, I prefer to make sure the 1st down is earned and there isn't a need to go for it on 4th down.

What's worse, there was at least one (I believe two) time where Daboll went with the safe conservative play on second and short when they were around midfield.  If ever there was a time to go big it's on 2nd and short around midfield.

[MightyGiants]

There is more than a fraction of a second though. His ability to look downfield doesn't start when he has the ball in his hands. It starts as Tracy is running up the middle. And I'm sorry dude, but the argument here can't be that the linemen are too big to see over. He has to be able to see that.

Would you be the first to blame Jones for fumbling the toss back because he wasn't looking the ball into his hands?

[T200]

The coach said it was bad coaching

The QB said he didn't see the open receivers

The receiver said there was a lot going on in front of DJ

To be frank, I don't know what you are talking about

So we're going to start ignoring what we see and believe everything they say?

[MightyGiants]

So we're going to start ignoring what we see and believe everything they say?

The visuals and the game situation support what they say.  The only thing that didn't fit was Kurt Warner's commentary.

[T200]

The visuals and the game situation support what they say.  The only thing that didn't fit was Kurt Warner's commentary.

So we're being selective on who we choose to believe?

Kurt Warner, the SB-winning HOF QB says Jones has to make that play.

[jgrangers2]

Count the time from when DJ gets the ball back in his hands until he pulls the ball down due to the impending sack.

Which is why he has to get the ball and throw it. He should have been able to see the play was going to be open BEFORE he ever got the ball in his hands.

[MightyGiants]

So we're being selective on who we choose to believe?

Kurt Warner, the SB-winning HOF QB says Jones has to make that play.

Tim,

I don't doubt Warner's credentials.  I will say he seemed overly negative toward Jones (while conceding Jones did have a bad game) so I do have some doubts about Warner's impartiality.  For example, Warner gave Tracey a free pass on dropping the ball which turned into an interception.  DJ's throw may not have been perfect but a ball that hit's a players in both hands should be caught.

[T200]

Tim,

I don't doubt Warner's credentials.  I will say he seemed overly negative toward Jones (while conceding Jones did have a bad game) so I do have some doubts about Warner's impartiality.  For example, Warner gave Tracey a free pass on dropping the ball which turned into an interception.  DJ's throw may not have been perfect but a ball that hit's a players in both hands should be caught.

I didn't think he was overly negative towards Jones. A pass in front of Tracy keeps it out of harm's way. This is why we question Jones's accuracy and field vision.

Warner was right to question it as well.

[Trench]

Tim,

I don't doubt Warner's credentials.  I will say he seemed overly negative toward Jones (while conceding Jones did have a bad game) so I do have some doubts about Warner's impartiality.  For example, Warner gave Tracey a free pass on dropping the ball which turned into an interception.  DJ's throw may not have been perfect but a ball that hit's a players in both hands should be caught.

Interesting

[MightyGiants]

I didn't think he was overly negative towards Jones. A pass in front of Tracy keeps it out of harm's way. This is why we question Jones's accuracy and field vision.

Warner was right to question it as well.

Warner was right to question DJ's accuracy but WRONG to give Tracey a free pass on a costly drop.

[kingm56]

I didn't think he was overly negative towards Jones. A pass in front of Tracy keeps it out of harm's way. This is why we question Jones's accuracy and field vision.

Warner was right to question it as well.

If you thought it was just Warner criticizing DJ, you didn't watch the halftime show.