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Bucs get their number one WR back for the Giants game

Started by MightyGiants, November 20, 2024, 01:34:38 PM

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MightyGiants

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uconnjack8

Guessing Sterling Shepard will still be playing a prominent role like he has over the last several weeks.

Messiah717

Quote from: uconnjack8 on November 20, 2024, 05:20:30 PMGuessing Sterling Shepard will still be playing a prominent role like he has over the last several weeks.

He hasn't really done too much.  Their tight end Otton was the target monster and their used their three running backs heavily as well.  Mostly White and Irving. 

uconnjack8

Quote from: Messiah717 on November 20, 2024, 08:27:10 PMHe hasn't really done too much.  Their tight end Otton was the target monster and their used their three running backs heavily as well.  Mostly White and Irving. 

About 5 targets/game over the last month

nicky1000

would love a dynamic offense but lose a barn burner

TDToomer

I think the bigger elephant in the room is that many people here said Shepard should have retired 2 years ago and wasn't worth a roster sport in 2023, takes a spot from another receiver (Stills!) and should take coaching job. Now a year older he switches teams, coaches, and has an actual NFL QB and he has suddenly found the fountain of youth. This speaks volumes about how the Giants poorly evaluate their own player and at the same time how some fans evaluate our own players. Look at how quickly some couldn't wait to get rid of ball hawk McKinney. Look at how BJ Hill is still a starting NT 3 year after being traded. Look at how Will Hernandez is getting rave reviews. Why are we so bad at evaluating our own players? The narrative that "these are players who do nothing after they leave us" is beyond a false one.
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MightyGiants

Quote from: TDToomer on Today at 09:12:21 AMI think the bigger elephant in the room is that many people here said Shepard should have retired 2 years ago and wasn't worth a roster sport in 2023, takes a spot from another receiver (Stills!) and should take coaching job. Now a year older he switches teams, coaches, and has an actual NFL QB and he has suddenly found the fountain of youth. This speaks volumes about how the Giants poorly evaluate their own player and at the same time how some fans evaluate our own players. Look at how quickly some couldn't wait to get rid of ball hawk McKinney. Look at how BJ Hill is still a starting NT 3 year after being traded. Look at how Will Hernandez is getting rave reviews. Why are we so bad at evaluating our own players? The narrative that "these are players who do nothing after they leave us" is beyond a false one.

The issue with Shepard was never one of talent.  The issue was he couldn't stay healthy.   He leaves Ronnie Barnes and he has been able to more or less stay healthy with the Bucs medical people.   In game 8 he left the game with a hamstring tweak, but he was back on the field the next week.   I can't help but feel if that same situation had happened with the Giants and Ronnie Barnes' medical team, he would have missed most or all of the rest of the season.
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TDToomer

Quote from: MightyGiants on Today at 09:29:01 AMThe issue with Shepard was never one of talent.  The issue was he couldn't stay healthy.   He leaves Ronnie Barnes and he has been able to more or less stay healthy with the Bucs medical people.   In game 8 he left the game with a hamstring tweak, but he was back on the field the next week.   I can't help but feel if that same situation had happened with the Giants and Ronnie Barnes' medical team, he would have missed most or all of the rest of the season.

SS was healthy all last season and barely played yielding snaps to the likes of Isaiah Hogkins and Parris Campbell. But a solid passing team with 2 pro bowl receivers found a bigger role for him. It's beyond health. It's our poor coaching too. 
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MightyGiants

Quote from: TDToomer on Today at 09:36:03 AMSS was healthy all last season and barely played yielding snaps to the likes of Isaiah Hogkins and Parris Campbell. But a solid passing team with 2 pro bowl receivers found a bigger role for him. It's beyond health. It's our poor coaching too. 

2023 was a strange season.  I truly am puzzled why Schoen wasted money and a roster space signing Shepard if he was going to be chained to the bench as you described.
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AYM

Quote from: MightyGiants on Today at 09:38:26 AM2023 was a strange season.  I truly am puzzled why Schoen wasted money and a roster space signing Shepard if he was going to be chained to the bench as you described.

I doubt that was a Schoen decision.