NGT - Schefter: Daniel Jones hoping to land with a contender

[MrGap92]

he is a HUGE reason for the dysfunction.  All of a sudden he is released and how he is a legit NFL QB?

It seems some want to say I told you so from how I interpret certain posts, just because an undrafted QB with little talent is worse, does not mean Jones was good, but it will probably get spinned that way.

There are other issues, but to some Jones is blameless and is some Elite QB that apparantly 2 GMs, 3 HCs, and 5 playcallers all just could not unlock what he can really do....yeah, no, he was bad in college and was a 0 star recruit in college, I guess all those guys failed him too.

People say we are what our record says we are, but it never once applied to Jones, makes no sense.

[MightyGiants]

It seems some want to say I told you so from how I interpret certain posts, just because an undrafted QB with little talent is worse, does not mean Jones was good, but it will probably get spinned that way.

There are other issues, but to some Jones is blameless and is some Elite QB that apparantly 2 GMs, 3 HCs, and 5 playcallers all just could not unlock what he can really do....yeah, no, he was bad in college and was a 0 star recruit in college, I guess all those guys failed him too.

People say we are what our record says we are, but it never once applied to Jones, makes no sense.

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[Jclayton92]

Devito is a bum and Daniel Jones is trash. Both things can be true at the same time.

If we have Jayden Daniels or insert some Rising Qb we are likely in the playoff hunt if the oline that started the season was still playing.

[kingm56]

It seems some want to say I told you so from how I interpret certain posts, just because an undrafted QB with little talent is worse, does not mean Jones was good, but it will probably get spinned that way.

There are other issues, but to some Jones is blameless and is some Elite QB that apparantly 2 GMs, 3 HCs, and 5 playcallers all just could not unlock what he can really do....yeah, no, he was bad in college and was a 0 star recruit in college, I guess all those guys failed him too.

People say we are what our record says we are, but it never once applied to Jones, makes no sense.

I find the situation rather amusing, as we have a particular individual who has made some intriguing assertions regarding Daniel Jones:

1. Over 60 games isn't a sufficient sample size to fairly evaluate his abilities.

2 The inadequacy of Jones's "supporting pillars" (e.g., the offensive line, receivers, or system) makes any evaluation of his performance inherently flawed.

3. Earlier this season, it was deemed unfair to judge him, as he hadn't taken a snap in nearly a year.

Yet, after a single game, from an UDFA QB, who hasn't played a game in a year, it's I told you so.

The reasoning seems to create an ever-shifting standard for evaluation, consistently deflecting accountability in an effort to be right, about something/anything...

Again, its amusing and I appreciate it on an entertainment level. 

[MightyGiants]

I find the situation rather amusing, as we have a particular individual who has made some intriguing assertions regarding Daniel Jones:

1. Over 60 games isn't a sufficient sample size to fairly evaluate his abilities.

2 The inadequacy of Jones's "supporting pillars" (e.g., the offensive line, receivers, or system) makes any evaluation of his performance inherently flawed.

3. Earlier this season, it was deemed unfair to judge him, as he hadn't taken a snap in nearly a year.

Yet, after a single game, from an UDFA QB, who hasn't played a game in a year, it's I told you so.

The reasoning seems to create an ever-shifting standard for evaluation, consistently deflecting accountability in an effort to be right, about something/anything...

Again, its amusing and I appreciate it on an entertainment level. 

"I told you so."   Now, that certainly isn't a sentiment that hasn't been played to death over the last week or two 

Look, for the past week or two, you guys wanted to spin this narrative about how completely right you were and how completely wrong the people didn't agree weren't.   Yesterday, the real story was a lot more complicated than that.  Turns out the old saying about living in a world of grays rather than black and white has a lot of truth to it.

[MrGap92]

I find the situation rather amusing, as we have a particular individual who has made some intriguing assertions regarding Daniel Jones:

1. Over 60 games isn't a sufficient sample size to fairly evaluate his abilities.

2 The inadequacy of Jones's "supporting pillars" (e.g., the offensive line, receivers, or system) makes any evaluation of his performance inherently flawed.

3. Earlier this season, it was deemed unfair to judge him, as he hadn't taken a snap in nearly a year.

Yet, after a single game, from an UDFA QB, who hasn't played a game in a year, it's I told you so.

The reasoning seems to create an ever-shifting standard for evaluation, consistently deflecting accountability in an effort to be right, about something/anything...

Again, its amusing and I appreciate it on an entertainment level. 

Maybe we should give DeVito 6 years to prove himself?

I do not see why a UDFA backup to a bad QB, would not be expected to be worse in most scenarios.

Look at the Patriots after Brady, Saints after Brees, or to less extreme extents Raiders after Carr or Browns after Baker to name a couple. Funny how much a QB makes a difference.

Not that it's the only issue with the team, just the biggest and one of many. Yet, the accusation of blaming only DJ will continue.

[kingm56]

Maybe we should give DeVito 6 years to prove himself?

I do not see why a UDFA backup to a bad QB, would not be expected to be worse in most scenarios.

Look at the Patriots after Brady, Saints after Brees, or to less extreme extents Raiders after Carr or Browns after Baker to name a couple. Funny how much a QB makes a difference.

Not that it's the only issue with the team, just the biggest and one of many. Yet, the accusation of blaming only DJ will continue.

The idea that a UDFA QB, who hasn't played in a year and is making only his sixth career start, can definitively prove anything is, at best, questionable. Even if he goes out on Thursday and throws three touchdowns, it neither confirms nor disproves anything.

[MrGap92]

The idea that a UDFA QB, who hasn't played in a year and is making only his sixth career start, can definitively prove anything is, at best, questionable. Even if he goes out on Thursday and throws three touchdowns, it neither confirms nor disproves anything.

My 6 year comment was missing the sarcasm button lol

[andrew_nyGiants]

We've all seen enough of Jones to accept the fact that he's a back-up at best.

The reasons we looked so terrible yesterday is that four letter word F L A T.

We were flat on defense and flat on offense. No matter how bad Jones has been, most of the roster looked in our QB cupboard and saw that it was bear. A reasonable communication that we were mailing in the rest of the season.

Another minor point: while Tommy was a little better at throwing down the field, DJ was at minimum a respectable run threat, which offered us more success at running the ball than Tommy could.

In the end I suspect no one in that QB room at the beginning of this season could start for another NFL team.


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[MightyGiants]

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[MightyGiants]

How does any QB survive these playing conditions, much less thrive?


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[Trench]

Yesterday, it proved beyond a doubt that wasn't the case.  DJ left, and the team got much worse.  It must be a coincidence that when the team removed its toughest player and a team captain, they suddenly (and by their own admission) played soft

Oh please, spare me. Jones would've had the exact (and I mean EXACT same outcome yesterday)!!....the defense quit. The starting Tackle went down. The coach called a garbage game.

Daniel Jones how wonderful of a person he was would NOT have been able to overcome ANY of it!...2 years without a TD at Giants stadium, let's not pretend he was something different just because a bad situation was piled on

[MightyGiants]

Oh please, spare me. Jones would've had the exact (and I mean EXACT same outcome yesterday)!!....the defense quit. The starting Tackle went down. The coach called a garbage game.

Daniel Jones how wonderful of a person he was would NOT have been able to overcome ANY of it!...2 years without a TD at Giants stadium, let's not pretend he was something different just because a bad situation was piled on

Daboll, did call a garbage game.  Do you think Daboll saved his bad play calling for DeVito, or do you think Jones also had to endure that challenge?

[coggs]

It seems some want to say I told you so from how I interpret certain posts, just because an undrafted QB with little talent is worse, does not mean Jones was good, but it will probably get spinned that way.

There are other issues, but to some Jones is blameless and is some Elite QB that apparantly 2 GMs, 3 HCs, and 5 playcallers all just could not unlock what he can really do....yeah, no, he was bad in college and was a 0 star recruit in college, I guess all those guys failed him too.

People say we are what our record says we are, but it never once applied to Jones, makes no sense.

Seriously.  As time goes on some will swear he was on the cusp of taking them to the Super Bowl.

[Trench]

Daboll, did call a garbage game.  Do you think Daboll saved is bad play calling for DeVito, or do you think Jones also had to endure that challenge?

You are 100% correct on that. I said in game thread with Daboll - when I think he is gonna run, he throws and when I think he will throw - he runs