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Give Dabs another season or 2

Started by killarich, November 28, 2024, 10:11:29 PM

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killarich

Look I been a Jones defender his whole career but he was not Dabs QB

Whatever you feel about the last 2 seasons ... season 1 dabs knew what he had on the team and he was a big part Jones got that Contract ....

Jones imo earned a contract ... he had a good season ..... mainly because of his legs and dabs knew how to scheme on Jones

But the league figured out Jones and he tore his ACL ... he never got back to 2022 Jones

He still had his favorite receiver (Slayton) and Nabers to utilize this season ..... and he had the most time in the pocket ever when the o-line was healthy.... But the guy couldn't capitalize

Dabs got COTY for a reason ....his playcalling from game 1 (going for 2 and the win) got us in the playoffs that year

I don't agree with giving him the boot after this season especially when its an obvious tank job

We have a decent foundation on this team .... And as much as I loved Jones he was the one holding us back this season

No excuse why we couldn't score more than 20 points a game especially after realizing Tracy is a formidable rb....

Hyatt may be a certified bust now .... But Nabers is talented ... and Slayton and Wandale can be a decent #2 and 3

Defensively we obviously need a CB1 and let Banks be CB2 .... We have Dru in slot and Nubin at safety .....LB corps is decent ... and while Burns and Thibs may be somewhat disappointing .... More than half the league would love our setup on the front 7

Once again we have a foundation to work with .... Theo Johnson,Tracy , Nabers + top 3 rookie QB

HEALTHY O-line and maybe an upgrade somewhere this offseason .... We def need help on run defense

But to me the Dabs hate is wild ....saw some people today mad at the pick 6... that was 100% on Lock .... He lobs it softly like any qb would do and we gain 10-50 yards on that play .... He literally put it where only the defender could get it

I'm all for giving dabs , Bowen and Schoen one more season (or 2) to work with their guy

Giantleap56

Absolutely no. I can't deal with this regime. They have made worse than then the Gettleman teams. These guys are trash. And Daboll is not damn QB whisperer or guru.

killarich

Quote from: Giantleap56 on November 28, 2024, 10:20:09 PMAbsolutely no. I can't deal with this regime. They have made worse than then the Gettleman teams. These guys are trash. And Daboll is not damn QB whisperer or guru.

It's not all on him though

Last year Jones was pretty bad the what 6 games he played ?

Then this season he couldn't figure it out even when the o-line was playing well

Let's be real here .... If we had a top 12 qb and were to score idk maybe 30 points from time to time we wouldn't even be having this convo

Yes dabs has made some bad calls

But I can bet you he's made some more calls that were good to great that just weren't executed properly

MightyGiants

@killarich

What does Daboll do better than other coaches?
SMART, TOUGH, DEPENDABLE

Trench

Hyatt is a bust?...how so?

He caught the ball today when they threw to him.

killarich

Quote from: MightyGiants on November 28, 2024, 10:37:25 PM@killarich

What does Daboll do better than other coaches?

Idk ....


His playcalling isn't perfect .... But it also isn't as bad as some make it out to be

Replace his qb this season with almost anyone of the top 20 qbs in the league and his job doesn't even come to question


MightyGiants

Quote from: killarich on November 28, 2024, 10:46:15 PMIdk ....


His playcalling isn't perfect .... But it also isn't as bad as some make it out to be

Replace his qb this season with almost anyone of the top 20 qbs in the league and his job doesn't even come to question



Look at the most successful coaches and you can name at least one or two things they did well.


Parcells - great motivator

Coughlin - attention to detail

Bill Walsh-  culture setter brilliant offensive mind

 Andy Reid - great QB developer



If your HC does not have something they do better than other coaches, how are they going to beat other coaches?

SMART, TOUGH, DEPENDABLE

Messiah717

This teams problems go well beyond just replacing the QB.

BlueMoshik

"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results."

- Albert Einstein

AYM

If it were up to me I wouldn't give Daboll another game.

Philosophers

Does anybody here think if Evan Neal were as bad for say Bill Parcells that he'd see the field as much as he does with Daboll?

Daboll is too player friendly and too lenient on player mistakes.  No discipline

Doc16LT56

You can't win 2 games and expect to keep your job. He'll probably finish 2-15, worst record in franchise history, and we want to give him possibly 2 more seasons????

MightyGiants

Quote from: Doc16LT56 on November 29, 2024, 07:50:47 AMYou can't win 2 games and expect to keep your job. He'll probably finish 2-15, worst record in franchise history, and we want to give him possibly 2 more seasons????

Plus, Daboll lost yesterday with a team with a worse QB
SMART, TOUGH, DEPENDABLE

Philosophers

Quote from: Doc16LT56 on November 29, 2024, 07:50:47 AMYou can't win 2 games and expect to keep your job. He'll probably finish 2-15, worst record in franchise history, and we want to give him possibly 2 more seasons????

On top of last year's debacle.  Dabs should call ReMax and get his house listed now.  No way Mara can glean anything positive by keeping him unless he is too lazy about the change.

I love continuity but Daboll and Schoen have regressed this team big time a ross the entire organization.

Doc16LT56

Quote from: MightyGiants on November 29, 2024, 07:56:10 AMPlus, Daboll lost yesterday with a team with a worse QB
Everyone knows I was no fan of Daniel Jones, but the way they've handled the QB situation has been amateur hour. Unless they were ordered to tank, because that's the only thing that would make sense.