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When you watch the conditions Drew Lock had to work under

Started by MightyGiants, December 09, 2024, 08:50:56 AM

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TDToomer

If what Dan Schneier is concluding about Lock then continuing to play him over a now healthy DeVito is all the proof you need that they are purposely putting the worst players on the field to get that 1st overall pick.

I suppose you can't IR everyone without payroll and cap complicity coming into play right?
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andrew_nyGiants

I would say that most sure fire QB picks fail as much due to their inability to be that guy as being drafted by a poor organization.

As to the latter relative to the Giants, I would say the jury is still out.


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todge

Quote from: MightyGiants on December 09, 2024, 08:50:56 AMDropped passes, penalties, poor pass protection, and weak play calling, can you imagine a newly drafted rookie QB thriving under such conditions as he engages in the critical NFL development phase of his career?


A new QB, in my opinion, will not solve the problems because they are far more deep-rooted.  All drafting a quarterback will accomplish is ruining a young quarterback's NFL dreams.
Those reasons also destroyed the promising career of Daniel Jones. There were 10-12 teams interested in him with at least three offering him their starting job. He ultimately chose the Vikings because of the "situation " there. Even if it meant waiting on the Practice Squad for next year.


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T200

Quote from: todge on December 09, 2024, 04:33:51 PMThose reasons also destroyed the promising career of Daniel Jones. There were 10-12 teams interested in him with at least three offering him their starting job. He ultimately chose the Vikings because of the "situation " there. Even if it meant waiting on the Practice Squad for next year.


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He'll have a chance to live up to those lofty backup QB predictions.  :ok:
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MrGap92

Quote from: T200 on December 09, 2024, 04:41:26 PMHe'll have a chance to live up to those lofty backup QB predictions.  :ok:

I mean, to be fair, as a backup QB, if he "locks in" his full potential may finally be unlocked.

T200

Quote from: MrGap92 on December 09, 2024, 04:54:12 PMI mean, to be fair, as a backup QB, if he "locks in" his full potential may finally be unlocked.
We saw his full potential in '22. He probably doesn't get much better than that to get a shot at starting again.
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"We're going to build this thing the right way... I'm not going to do a Hail Mary for self preservation. We've got a plan in place and we're going to stick with that"

-Giants GM Joe Schoen on potential roster plans and spending for the 2025 season.

MrGap92

Quote from: T200 on December 09, 2024, 05:05:53 PMWe saw his full potential in '22. He probably doesn't get much better than that to get a shot at starting again.

Lies! He is Tom Brady fused with Michael Vick, he just needs the proper support!  :coach:  :coach:  :coach:  :coach:  :coach:  :coach:  :coach:  :coach:

T200

Quote from: MrGap92 on December 09, 2024, 05:08:13 PMLies! He is Tom Brady fused with Michael Vick, he just needs the proper support!  :coach:  :coach:  :coach:  :coach:  :coach:  :coach:  :coach:  :coach:
I forgot he was "Vanilla Vick"  :P
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"We're going to build this thing the right way... I'm not going to do a Hail Mary for self preservation. We've got a plan in place and we're going to stick with that"

-Giants GM Joe Schoen on potential roster plans and spending for the 2025 season.

TDToomer

Quote from: MrGap92 on December 09, 2024, 04:54:12 PMI mean, to be fair, as a backup QB, if he "locks in" his full potential may finally be unlocked.

We're still waiting for Lock to finally be unlocked to his full potential.  :P
"It's extra special against Dallas. That's absolutely a team I can't stand. I've been hating Dallas ever since I knew anything about football." - Brandon Jacobs

MrGap92

Quote from: TDToomer on December 10, 2024, 08:46:58 AMWe're still waiting for Lock to finally be unlocked to his full potential.  :P

Lock had potential?  Redfaced

TDToomer

Quote from: MrGap92 on December 10, 2024, 10:10:17 AMLock had potential?  Redfaced

Briefly in Seattle until he was beaten out by journeyman Geno and never got to play except when we injured him. Lock actually looked good in that game so thank to our Charmin Soft D he impressed Schoen to sign him to replace Taylor. It all makes sense now.
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MightyGiants

Quote from: TDToomer on December 10, 2024, 10:42:56 AMBriefly in Seattle until he was beaten out by journeyman Geno and never got to play except when we injured him. Lock actually looked good in that game so thank to our Charmin Soft D he impressed Schoen to sign him to replace Taylor. It all makes sense now.

I thought Lock's start was against the Eagles.
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TDToomer

Quote from: MightyGiants on December 10, 2024, 04:21:52 PMI thought Lock's start was against the Eagles.

I never said he started against us. We knocked Geno out of the game.
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MightyGiants

Quote from: TDToomer on December 11, 2024, 08:51:56 AMI never said he started against us. We knocked Geno out of the game.

Didn't Lock only attempt 6 passes (completing 2 for 63 yards) in that game? 
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TDToomer

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Quote from: MightyGiants on December 11, 2024, 08:55:17 AMDidn't Lock only attempt 6 passes (completing 2 for 63 yards) in that game? 

Will you just stop? You are again going out of your way to start an endless argument where you have to get he last word and I am not playing along. Move on.
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