Time of Possesion

[zephirus]

Time of Possession is fairly antiquated as a stand-alone measurement at this point.  Much like baseball shifted from batting average to on-base percentage, I think most teams are now looking at number of plays run and yards per attempt as the measurements for healthy offense. 

It's also important to note how much faster teams can score now.  It is not uncommon for teams to score with under a minute left in the half/game, sometimes even less.  As a result, the ability to possess the ball for long periods of time, while still desirable, has a diminished effect.  Go look at the Raiders game from a few weeks back.  They were literally so scared of kicking a field goal with under 20 seconds and turning the ball back over to Mahomes that they tried an ill-advised play from scrimmage, botched the snap and lost the game.  Not to mention the Chiefs/Bills game from a few years back where 24 points were scored in the last 2 minutes or something.

[Giant Jim]

Good point GiantsJim - but the fact we are near the top in possesion over a full season, wouldn't that show it as not being a useless stat since all the others are playoffs caliber?

What if Daboll was near too in time of possesion in his previous seasons also?...what would that indicate?

I'm asking (Not saying I have an answer).

They've driven down the field some, but not scored. You'd have to compare to number of running plays, how many times they get first downs on first or 2nd down instead of going to 3rd down every time. So many things go into it. Most teams in today's game are pass happy. In the past, teams ran the ball frequently to set up 3rd & short. Pass happy teams aren't going to eat as much time off the clock as run first teams. I don't think it's that important for the Giants right now. Maybe you could anyalize close games with time of posession, but it just isn't an indicator of these blowouts.

[files58]

"Just maybe Daboll isn't as bad as I think?...or is simply bad at red zone play calling?"

My first thought is lack of Red Zone play execution, notably QB failure(mostly Jones). Outside the Red Zone opposing defenses need to protect the whole field, even with Jones lack of ability to go downfield. Inside the Red Zone defenses have the back of the end zone as a boundary. Also plays,reads are speeded up. We all know Jones has difficulty processing which could be exacerbated close to the goal line. Yes I don't think Dabol is as bad as you think. Frankly I believe he wants to play his brand of Giant football. These guys aren't stupid, they know what wins around here. For me it always starts with defense. A defense that beats the crap out of an opposing offense. A defense that practices against an offense. Steel sharpening steel. The problem is no one wants to hit anymore, and if you blow a kiss at a QB you're flagged for 15. With that since you're going to get flagged anyway might as well go all out, and nail the MF. It really bothers me when I see QB's dance around, avoid the rush, run downfield, then slide like Lou Brock, and oooh the defense hasto play nice. Nail the mother, not in the head, aim for the torso and legs. FOOTBALL IS A COLLISION SPORT. 

[Trench]

Daboll Giant teams are awful in red zone no matter who is QB.

[Giant Jim]

I think teams are scoring so fast against the Giants defense and kicking teams, they just don't have the ball that much.

I'd like to see time of possession numbers from 1966. That defense was bad too.

[AZGiantFan]

This is fantastic info you found!


Thanks for looking that up AZ

You might find this site interesting: https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/team-stats/

It has team rankings in a wide variety of offensive and defensive categories and goes back to 2003.  That is where I got the TOP info.