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Giants VS Colts Game thread

Started by MightyGiants, December 29, 2024, 11:58:30 AM

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katkavage

Quote from: kingm56 on December 29, 2024, 04:09:38 PMUmmmm...I'm literally the only poster who called Dabs 2022 CoY performance a mirage. So, while you have oscillated between him being a good and terrible coach, I have remained consistent. Hes a good coach when paired with a plus QB and well below average when he's not.
I've oscillated? Never. I don't oscillate. I want a good coach no matter who the QB is. A coach who takes responsibility for every aspect of the team, not just the QB.

Woody

Good game for team .....if they really want aQB in first round they can get him with trade.....actually this may for the best ...as they will have to really believe in the guy to trade for him...
No guarantees with a top QB pick....build the team from inside out .... O line d line ...they have good rb and good wrs already.
If Lock can get 45 ...then a new QB.    #1 pick or not can get done also. 
Key to game was very few penalties to hurt or stop drives...very few drops and decent QB play.  O line was good as well.


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kingm56

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Quote from: katkavage on December 29, 2024, 04:23:21 PMI've oscillated? Never. I don't oscillate. I want a good coach no matter who the QB is. A coach who takes responsibility for every aspect of the team, not just the QB.

I understand you want a good coach; however, in 2022, you thought Dabs was that (good) coach; you gave him credit for turning DJ/Giants around.  18-months later, you're calling him inept...that's oscillating. IMO, it doesn't matter who the next coach is, if we fail to secure a plus-QB.  If the Giants fire Dabs, I won't lose a bit of sleep; however, I also get the argument that he deserves a shot with a legit QB.     

y_so_blu

Well, this was... startling. Any given Sunday always applies, so I won't let it fool me into thinking Daboll and Schoen should be back next year.

The Raiders won too, surprisingly, so the race to the bottom is still anyone's game.

katkavage

Quote from: kingm56 on December 29, 2024, 04:29:36 PMI understand you want a good coach; however, in 2022, you thought Dabs was that (good) coach; you gave credit to him for turning DJ/Giants around.  18-months later, you're calling him inept...that's oscillating. IMO, it doesn't matter who the next coach is, if we fail to secure a plus-QB.  If the Giants fire Dabs, I won't lose a bit of sleep; however, I also get the argument that he deserves a shot with a legit QB.   
Who did? He was a breath of fresh air compared to Judge but I never can evaluate a coach after one year, good or bad. You are mistaken.  L

EDjohnst1981

Quote from: brownelvis54 on December 29, 2024, 04:15:06 PMIt seems like forever since we scored touchdowns like that.

Because it has been.

Woody

Two rookies Wr and Rb have over 1000 yards is not to shabby.
Nabors  a happy guy in post game.
Lock thru ball on time so they could run after catch


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Woody

Quote from: kingm56 on December 29, 2024, 03:53:37 PMHuh?  They have 8 penalties to Indy 2.
Drive killing penalties is what I meant...false start illegal formation holding etc.


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kingm56

Quote from: Woody on December 29, 2024, 06:33:16 PMDrive killing penalties is what I meant...false start illegal formation holding etc.


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Gotcha...fundamentally, the Giants looked elite because they got got elite QB play.  I'm sure this was a one-off for Lock, but it shows how good the supporting players are with competent QB play.

Brooklyn Dave

Would you consider Lock as a back up QB to someone like Fields, Flaco etc. AND draft a QB to sit for a year or two.

kingm56

Quote from: Brooklyn Dave on December 29, 2024, 06:38:16 PMWould you consider Lock as a back up QB to someone like Fields, Flaco etc. AND draft a QB to sit for a year or two.

I like the notion of signing Fields this year and drafting our starter in 2026; I'm also ok with gambling on a 2d round QB. 

Brooklyn Dave

Quote from: kingm56 on December 29, 2024, 06:39:49 PMI like the notion of signing Fields this year and drafting our starter in 2026; I'm also ok with gambling on a 2d round QB. 

Shoen and Daboll cannot keep their jobs unless they draft a QB . What would they tell Mara , " we can sign Justin Fields to be our QB , we don't need a QB right now with our first round pick". Mara replies , " you kept telling me that you never had the opportunity to draft your own QB and work with him "