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I want a real Right Tackle in this upcoming draft

Started by brownelvis54, December 30, 2024, 11:26:56 PM

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brownelvis54

I want a college player in the draft that has played most if not all his college career at Right Tackle. It seems to me that Right Tackles are not as valued due to the fact that most players at the QB position are Right-handed. Penix is a lefty, and can you imagine Even Neal protecting his blind-side? 


It seems to me we could get a true Right Tackle in round 2 and beyond. No more getting a guy that " has experience at mostly left tackle, but has played several games at the right side"
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Quote from: brownelvis54 on December 30, 2024, 11:26:56 PMI want a college player in the draft that has played most if not all his college career at Right Tackle. It seems to me that Right Tackles are not as valued due to the fact that most players at the QB position are Right-handed. Penix is a lefty, and can you imagine Even Neal protecting his blind-side? 


It seems to me we could get a true Right Tackle in round 2 and beyond. No more getting a guy that " has experience at mostly left tackle, but has played several games at the right side"

Wyatt Milum from W.Va. True right tackle projected to go early round 2.

londonblue

There are so many other needs beyond QB including starting DT, CB, third Edge, second WR that it is hard to see us using pick 36 on a RT when we can just add another bargain veteran to cover Eluemunor (who is also effectively our swing LT and maybe RG). I reckon the top of R4 might be where we swing at a developmental RT.
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Philosophers

I am with you.  Build the trenches to get them good as that will benefit rest of team.


madbadger

We gonna trust the same crew that thought Evan Neal was worth the 7th pick overall to draft his replacement early?

T200

Quote from: madbadger on December 31, 2024, 07:26:07 AMWe gonna trust the same crew that thought Evan Neal was worth the 7th pick overall to draft his replacement early?
There are hits and misses every year. He was a pretty big miss but that doesn't mean they can't identify talent and make good picks.
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MrGap92

Eleumenor is fine, just needs to get healthy which he has been lately I believe.

They just need a backup swing, which doesnt need to be a high pick.

Philosophers

I dont really feel like JS has that sixth sense to look beyond or question what he sees.

Example:  Evan Neal didn't do lateral agility drills at Combine and I dont believe at his Pro Day.  A good sixth sense would have recognized that as something concerning.

If a college QB playing in a warm dry climate refused to have his hands measured, shouldn't a cold weather, rainy climate NFL team consider that a pass?


MightyGiants

Quote from: londonblue on December 31, 2024, 04:44:14 AMThere are so many other needs beyond QB including starting DT, CB, third Edge, second WR that it is hard to see us using pick 36 on a RT when we can just add another bargain veteran to cover Eluemunor (who is also effectively our swing LT and maybe RG). I reckon the top of R4 might be where we swing at a developmental RT.

So many needs and not enough resources to fill them all.
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Philosophers

I am beginning to think Emery Jones out of LSU will be a better NFL OT than Will Campbell and Connor Williams out of Texas will better than Kelvin Banks.

Campbell has short arms and Banks has limited lateral speed.

Gmo11

Eleumenor was playing well when he was at RT.  I actually think another guard is more of a necessity than an OT.  They do need a backup that won't poop his pants when called to action but you're not looking for that in Round 1.  I would love to see if Neal can do what Becton has done and become a guard.  Becton was as bad or worse than even Neal was before moving to guard and now he's part of the best OL in football.  There's no guarantee that Neal can make the move but we haven't even TRIED it yet.  Despite this team and him in particular being an absolute mess the past 3 years.  Maybe this is the training camp they actually give that a shot. It would help the team so much if he can just not be disgustingly awful at a guard spot.  Then with Runyan on the other spot, thomas/Eleumenor at the tackles the OL is suddenly pretty good.

At the beginning of the season the OL was actually for the first time in like a decade NOT the biggest problem of the team. That distinction rested with Daniel Jones.  The OL was doing a pretty good job until a bunch of injuries derailed everything.

kartanoman

Quote from: Philosophers on December 31, 2024, 09:05:18 AMI am beginning to think Emery Jones out of LSU will be a better NFL OT than Will Campbell and Connor Williams out of Texas will better than Kelvin Banks.

Campbell has short arms and Banks has limited lateral speed.

Some agree with you, but depends on what individual scouts are specifically looking for, and some are more subjective than others. The Bowl games will help some, and the combines, provided they all participate, should answer more questions, or generate more questions.

But every prospect you mentioned is projected to become a starter in 2025, either as a tackle, guard, or both.

I'd sit back and watch them play because neither you, or anyone on this board, can guarantee that Thomas is playing 17 games in 2025. His track record has a trend now and he's damaged goods; a salvage title tackle. It's important the Giants scout these guys thoroughly because one of them could represent a decade of stability at left tackle; Thomas, at this point, does not. The main issue here is Schoen giving Thomas that contract in 2023. That's a killer for a damaged cornerstone of your offensive line.

But I do agree the pick can be invested in other places as well. If fixing the O-line isn't worth using their top pick, then go CB, Edge or even DT.

If nothing else, their win opened the entire draft board for them to consider. In the end, that may be better for them on the long run.

We shall see.

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Doc16LT56

Quote from: T200 on December 31, 2024, 08:05:29 AMThere are hits and misses every year. He was a pretty big miss but that doesn't mean they can't identify talent and make good picks.
True, but going into year 4 we are still waiting for them to hit on an OL in the draft. That's a pretty big indictment in the NFL world.

T200

Quote from: Doc16LT56 on December 31, 2024, 10:09:31 AMTrue, but going into year 4 we are still waiting for them to hit on an OL in the draft. That's a pretty big indictment in the NFL world.
I don't disagree. Maybe with Bricillo on the staff, he'll have some input as well.

I know folks say the scouting staff has been overhauled and resulted in better picks this past draft. Hopefully that continues.
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Doc16LT56

My two cents, Jermaine Eluemunor is the starting right tackle and ideally will hold that position for the next 2-3 years. If Andrew Thomas is healthy, they have their starting tackles and the priority is to improve IOL and likely to identify a swing tackle in free agency. If AT is not healthy, then the priority is left tackle.