Giants mouthpiece indicates Daboll (and presumably Schoen) are staying

[T200]

And I respectfully disagree. My coach who studies QB play sees a hard ceiling for the kid, not to mention he is injury prone. I was taught not to base decisions on performances over one game. I look for consistency and improvement over a sustained period not one game.

Thanks! I appreciate the dialog. There's no way of knowing what happened behind the scenes.

I still support Schoen and Daboll and would like them to be back. Daboll needs to fix his staff and plug holes. Schoen has shown signs of pushing back against Mara.

I'm hopeful that there will be a noticeable improvement next season.

[kartanoman]

Why is that ," Great news " ? Have you seen the record this year ? Did you remember that the GM gave Jones $40 million dollars and then dropped him this year . Did you remember he let Sequon Barkly leave for the Eagles ? Did you remember that his 2022 and 2023 drafts have produced not one pro bowl player and his first three first round picks are average at best and maybe a bust for one ?

I am not even going to go into Daboll who ;looks like another participant in the Bill Arnsbargere syndrome , a good assistant coach but a terrible head coach.

And you say ," good News " !!! 

" Good News ", would be on Monday we read that both Schoen and Daboll have been released from their positions !!!

I don't want to sound like a wise guy, but I think you meant the "other Good News" which started with Gibson and ended with both Robustelli and McVay.

Though I'm curious what McVay would have done with the Giants as GM, and if he would have achieved success here as he did under Eddie.

Maras vs. Eddie

Forget it, I think we all know that answer!

Peace!

[MrGap92]

Agreed.  Jones literally could not complete passes more than 15 yards beyond the line of scrimmage.  That is unheard of in the NFL.  How many times did we see plays on film breakdowns where the receivers WERE open and he just would not throw the ball?  We had Nabers saying how he was open on plays and he wouldnt throw it.  Then, a few weeks later he stepped back saying it was not the QB.  The  hell it wasnt the QB.  It 100% was.  Then, we had some on here saying that because Lock and DeVito were worse that somehow exonerated Jones as the problem.  Nonsense.   Oh, Vikings picked him up for their practice squad.  That must mean he is good.  Yeah, ok.

It was all an agenda, and a refusal to admit wrong. We all know none of these guys are any good, Lock had a stellar game this weekend, and is a peek into what could be if we find our answer at the position, or someone who at the very least is a substantial upgrade.

[MightyGiants]

It was all an agenda, and a refusal to admit wrong. We all know none of these guys are any good, Lock had a stellar game this weekend, and is a peek into what could be if we find our answer at the position, or someone who at the very least is a substantial upgrade.

Can you show me one post where you admitted you were wrong? 

[MightyGiants]

Fasell was the coach for 7 years.  Reeves for 4.   People were ready to run Coughlin out of town after the 2nd year.
And, if they don't give up the farm to move up will you find something else to complain about?

If you are happy with this season and the prospects moving forward, that's fine.  You be you.

I will, regardless of your efforts to silence me, voice my opinions of the team and its prospects objectively and honestly, be they good or bad.

[katkavage]

Thanks! I appreciate the dialog. There's no way of knowing what happened behind the scenes.

I still support Schoen and Daboll and would like them to be back. Daboll needs to fix his staff and plug holes. Schoen has shown signs of pushing back against Mara.

I'm hopeful that there will be a noticeable improvement next season.

Thank you for your patience and respect with my opinion. With Daboll's track record with his staff it's gonna be a real problem to find quality coaches. Especially as a lame duck. I fear the only improvement next year will be the number of rented planes around the stadium.

[T200]

Winning cures all.

I don't have any issue with him being a lame duck. Hopefully he finds an OC that he believes in and a QB he wants to work with. If he gets those two key pieces, the offense will be much-improved.

And if he doesn't, then he will be on his way out. I'll be OK with that. All excuses will have been removed from the equation.

[spiderblue43]

So the players support Daboll..oh my, can't believe it. Of course they do; he lets stuff slide all the time. I think Dabs and Schoen are dead men walking..even with a reprieve by the Governor Mara. JS will insist on his QB trade up, I fear, spending draft capital.

The schedule looks brutal for next year, and another 10 loss or more season is due, especially with a rookie QB. Schoen should be fired with Daboll. Btw, what staff hires can we expect I believe with a lame duck coach. Not special, I expect. It's such a mess that Mara should just start over, again, but he is determined to run it back. Yay.

[MrGap92]

idk how anyone says they let stuff slide like we know what conversations are had behind the scenes, Jones was benched, Daboll has been seen plenty visibly frustrated, etc

Unless one has inside information, there is no evidence to these types of claims. If there is, I'd love to see it.

[Philosophers]

Now reading that Giants underestimated Barkley's leadership.  Jesus friggin Christ that's all I and others here said should be the reason why they pay up to retain him.  They lost Sterling Sheppard, another leader.  The team, especially the offense, needed SB.

[MightyGiants]

Now reading that Giants underestimated Barkley's leadership.  Jesus friggin Christ that's all I and others here said should be the reason why they pay up to retain him.  They lost Sterling Sheppard, another leader.  The team, especially the offense, needed SB.

Are you referring to this article, Joe?

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/43260627/giants-says-loss-saquon-barkley-locker-room-underestimated

[andrew_nyGiants]

If Schoen could recruit Vrabel I would totally be willing to have renewed faith in him.


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[coggs]

If you are happy with this season and the prospects moving forward, that's fine.  You be you.

I will, regardless of your efforts to silence me, voice my opinions of the team and its prospects objectively and honestly, be they good or bad.

Daboll just needs to make them run some extra laps and things will turn around.

[kartanoman]

Daboll just needs to make them run some extra laps and things will turn around.

I think I need to run some extra laps after reading this thread from start to finish!

Whew!

Peace!

[spiderblue43]

That was funny. Camp Daboll...is like summer camp for these Giants..just enough and we're good. Daboll and Schoen have to be kicked out the friggin door. It's over. The schedule next year is brutal..start over..draft the best players availabile. No trading up for a QB...no!!!