Execs around the league can't believe Schoen still has a job

[MightyGiants]

https://x.com/DMRussini/status/1876264622032122241

[katkavage]

Outside the bubble it's incomprehensible. That's how bad and inept this organization is.

[T200]

I vote Baalke.

As much as I wanted both Schoen and Daboll to be back, I'd rather both be gone if there was to be a firing. I did not want one or the other to be fired.

[Gmo11]

Baalke has been terrible forever.  Schoen at least is getting better and with a real QB this team when healthy wasnt that bad. I think people are going to be shocked how much better they look when the QB can actually find the wide open WR and then throw him the football too!

[MightyGiants]

Outside the bubble it's incomprehensible. That's how bad and inept this organization is.

Exactly!   

[MightyGiants]

https://x.com/MONTECRI5TO/status/1876287834178650574

[coggs]

Any exec around the league who doesn't think Mara has been on board with extending Jones years ago, and then benching him just doesnt know how the Giants operate.  Mara is not off in Tahiti and just waiting for the cash to come in.  He is in the building everyday and involved.

[MightyGiants]

Any exec around the league who doesn't think Mara has been on board with extending Jones years ago, and then benching him just doesnt know how the Giants operate.  Mara is not off in Tahiti and just waiting for the cash to come in.  He is in the building everyday and involved.

Other teams know more about each other than any team's most ardent fans

[coggs]

Other teams know more about each other than any team's most ardent fans

Yes, which is why they should know Mara is involved with what is going on day to day. 

[MightyGiants]

Yes, which is why they should know Mara is involved with what is going on day to day. 

Mara voices his opinions, but we know he allows the GM and HC to make their own decisions

[coggs]

Mara voices his opinions, but we know he allows the GM and HC to make their own decisions

But there are also other family members involved.  I think a big part of why they are not being let go is because this is a group effort and there are people involved that can't be fired.

[MightyGiants]

But there are also other family members involved.  I think a big part of why they are not being let go is because this is a group effort and there are people involved that can't be fired.

I suspect it's more likely that Schoen smartly befriended Mara's nephew, which certainly didn't hurt come the end of the season and Mara had to decide who or if there would be accountability.

[coggs]

I suspect it's more likely that Schoen smartly befriended Mara's nephew, which certainly didn't hurt come the end of the season and Mara had to decide who or if there would be accountability.

Possibility, but I think it is more than that.  I honestly think this is a group effort and a case of too many chefs in the kitchen.

My opinion on how I think things have played out is that they (schoen, daboll, john mara, chris mara, mcconnell, and whoever else has a seat at the table and cant be fired) came to a consensus to not pick up the 5th year on Jones.  Then, 2022 happened.  They had no choice but to get a deal done with him as they had no young QB to step in and they were picking too late to get one to come and start.  FA market at the time was bare.  Franchise tag was not an option as the cap was a mess.  Had to get creative and knew they had him for 2 years if it went south as that is how the deal was set up.  I don't think Barkley wanted to be here.  Tried to extend him in 2022, he wouldnt sign.  They franchised him and let him walk.  He saw the writing on the wall and knew he would never have a season like he had while here.  I remember one of the wfan guys saying Belichick said something like, "everyone knew he was going to the Eagles..."  If I was a stud RB, I would want to go there too.  Anyways, I think the consortium was all on the same page after a few games that it was time to move from Jones, just had to give it some time and furthermore I think they all knew that starting Lock or DeVito was not going to make things better.  Just had to make it clear they were moving on.

As far as last year's draft, think they liked Williams, Daniels, and Maye for their 1st pick, but did not want Pennix, Nix, McCarthy at 6.  If they could have taken them later, maybe they do it.  Here is where I think people are misreading things.  I agree Nix or Pennix would make them better this year.  I have said a million times that with even below average QB play (by nfl standards) they would have been 5-1 after 6 games.  With one of them at QB, I think it is possible they would have a game this weekend.  However, is that good enough?  Being an upgrade over Jones does not take much.  Are either of them a QB that can get you Super Bowls?  I am not so sure.  Play-offs? Yes, with the right surroundings.  Play-offs year-in year-out almost as a formality?  Dont think so.  Serious contender every year? Dont think so. 

I also dont think he is going to be desperate.  Last thing we need is Mara giving an ultimatum to make the playoffs or win 10 games or he is gone.  Do we really want a repeat of 2016 where Reese went nuts in FA to save himself, got to the wild card, got their asses kicked and then sucked for 4 years after?  Do we want this cycle of every few years catching lightning in a bottle with a decent season, no championship and then back to sucking for a few years because you put yourself in cap hell for 2026, 2027, 2028 because you had to get creative with the numbers to sign all the guys you wanted for 2025?  I sure as hell dont. 

[Messiah717]

Sadly, the Giants have become an inept laughing stock.  This organization needs someone to come in here and reset the entire organization.

[Painter]

Who gives a xxxx; it's done. How about substituting some good will and good wishes toward a better future instead the seemingly endless bitching, moaning, and adolescent whining. If you can't grow a pair, at least try to grow up a little bit. GeeezisKrice. 

Cheers!