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2025 NFL QB market

Started by MightyGiants, January 07, 2025, 09:01:37 AM

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MightyGiants

This article does a pretty good job breaking down all the QB options available to NYG in 2025 (although they omitted Dart and McCord as draft prospects)


https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2025-nfl-qb-market-top-free-agents-trade-targets-cut-candidates-projected-landing-spots-contracts-more/

I tend to lean toward signing Justin Fields as the bridge and drafting someone like Dart in round 2.  If it doesn't work out, you go QB in the 2026 draft.
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GordonGekko80

Rich, imagine Rodgers would want to stay in NY, would you sign him?

Ed Vette

A plethora of options. I like Wilson as a leader and a strong voice. The Steelers may not resign him, but he's resurrected his career there.

I agree that leaving Dart and McCord out of the mix may be a mistake. I think they could prove to be better than backups. Whenever I see clear improvement in a short period of time, it raises the ceiling for me.
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Quote from: GordonGekko80 on January 07, 2025, 09:14:50 AMRich, imagine Rodgers would want to stay in NY, would you sign him?
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Quote from: GordonGekko80 on January 07, 2025, 09:14:50 AMRich, imagine Rodgers would want to stay in NY, would you sign him?

I don't think I would.  First, he is more reputation than production these days. (no admittedly this was with the Jets, but it's not like the Giants would give him more to work with)

PFF rank- 15th  77.8 grade
QBR rank- 25th  48.2 grade
QB rating- 20th  90.5 grade

He is 41 and will turn 42 before the end of the next NFL season (December), so you have to anticipate further decline.

Add to that the a-hole factor (reported by league sources) and the distractions we witnessed with the Jets (like skipping mini-camp for a vacation).

Finally, he would like not to come cheap and would probably demand $20 million or so to return for another season.

Plus, if I were Rodgers, why would I sign with the Giants?  He has plenty of money, so $20 more isn't a huge incentive for the beating he will have to endure.  It's not like he would realistically be competing for a championship or even a playoff. 

So for all those reasons, I would pass.  I would rather take a flyer on a younger QB with some potential upside like Fields. 
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GordonGekko80

Quote from: MightyGiants on January 07, 2025, 09:26:11 AMI don't think I would.  First, he is more reputation than production these days. (no admittedly this was with the Jets, but it's not like the Giants would give him more to work with)

PFF rank- 15th  77.8 grade
QBR rank- 25th  48.2 grade
QB rating- 20th  90.5 grade

He is 41 and will turn 42 before the end of the next NFL season (December), so you have to anticipate further decline.

Add to that the a-hole (reported by league sources) and the distractions we witnessed with the Jets (like skipping mini-camp for a vacation).

Finally, he would like not to come cheap and would probably demand $20 million or so to return for another season.

Plus, if I were Rodgers, why would I sign with the Giants?  He has plenty of money, so $20 more isn't a huge incentive for the beating he will have to endure.  It's not like he would realistically be competing for a championship or even a playoff. 

So for all those reasons, I would pass.  I would rather take a flyer on a younger QB with some potential upside like Fields. 

That's fair.  ;)

Thanks for your view, always appreciated.
From my side, this was just a wild thought...  :D

President Rick

again, overlooking Will Howard, QB, OSU.  He's the guy...top of round 2.  Go Giants.
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MightyGiants

Quote from: President Rick on January 07, 2025, 11:04:05 AMagain, overlooking Will Howard, QB, OSU.  He's the guy...top of round 2.  Go Giants.

I didn't know much about about him, but I think this Reddit thread does a good job on him


https://www.reddit.com/r/NFL_Draft/comments/1hrrmba/what_is_will_howards_draft_ceiling/
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MightyGiants

QB prospects with more football

College Playoffs

Howard OSU, Ewers Texas, Allar PSU (some rumors he might change his mind about entering the draft), and Leonard ND


Senior Bowl


Jaxson DartQB | Mississippi


Will HowardQB | Ohio State


Dillon GabrielQB | Oregon


Riley LeonardQB | Notre Dame


Tyler ShoughQB | Louisville

Shrine Bowl

Shedeur Sanders, Colorado
Kyle McCord, Syracuse
Tyler Shough, Louisville
Kurtis Rourke, Indiana
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uconnjack8

There seems to be some Justin Fields interest in this forum these days.  I have to admit I don't get it.  He is a slow processor and holds on to the ball too long.  I would think if he is the starter next year, Daboll will be out at the end of the year. 

Steelers offense got better once Fields was replaced with Wilson.  He has been in the league for 4 years and has not made any significant progress as a passer.  Can someone give me a reason they like Fields other than physical attributes that they want to see him as a Giant?  Is there some part of being a QB that he is showing improvement on ?

MightyGiants

Quote from: uconnjack8 on January 07, 2025, 11:49:48 AMThere seems to be some Justin Fields interest in this forum these days.  I have to admit I don't get it.  He is a slow processor and holds on to the ball too long.  I would think if he is the starter next year, Daboll will be out at the end of the year. 

Steelers offense got better once Fields was replaced with Wilson.  He has been in the league for 4 years and has not made any significant progress as a passer.  Can someone give me a reason they like Fields other than physical attributes that they want to see him as a Giant?  Is there some part of being a QB that he is showing improvement on ?

Matt,

I wasn't interested in Fields last season, but I am this season (using the "beggers can't be choosers" logic.  Who do you think would be a realistic alternative to Fields that would give Schoen and Daboll a chance to put up a respectable record?
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Major Patriots Trade Report Emerges to Begin Offseason
Rookie quarterback Joe Milton III is receiving attention from other teams in the league after his Week 18 performance on Sunday.

https://chowderandchampions.com/major-patriots-trade-report-emerges-begin-offseason-01jgykdq2gah
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uconnjack8

Quote from: MightyGiants on January 07, 2025, 11:52:08 AMMatt,

I wasn't interested in Fields last season, but I am this season (using the "beggers can't be choosers" logic.  Who do you think would be a realistic alternative to Fields that would give Schoen and Daboll a chance to put up a respectable record?

Who is going to be available?  I mean, there is a list of names in that article, but I don't know if Darnold will be available. 

Russell Wilson is on the list in that article and its obvious the Steelers thought he was better than Fields. 

I think Fields will be available, but just not sure of who else will be.  Further, we are talking about taking a QB off the scrap heap and trying to win games with below average OL, so I am not sure there are any guys that are going to get the job done. 

In short, I think Mara put off the inevitable for a year.

Stringer Bell

Quote from: President Rick on January 07, 2025, 11:04:05 AMagain, overlooking Will Howard, QB, OSU.  He's the guy...top of round 2.  Go Giants.

There's no way Howard goes in round 2. Milroe - and maybe Ewers if he comes out - are the 2 QBs projected to go in the second round.

After them, there's still Beck (even post injury) and Dart who rank above Howard.

Howard and McCord then are at the top of tier 4 - which I'd be fine considering in the 4th round.

TDToomer

Quote from: uconnjack8 on January 07, 2025, 11:49:48 AMThere seems to be some Justin Fields interest in this forum these days.  I have to admit I don't get it.  He is a slow processor and holds on to the ball too long.  I would think if he is the starter next year, Daboll will be out at the end of the year. 

Steelers offense got better once Fields was replaced with Wilson.  He has been in the league for 4 years and has not made any significant progress as a passer.  Can someone give me a reason they like Fields other than physical attributes that they want to see him as a Giant?  Is there some part of being a QB that he is showing improvement on ?

Fields got the Steelers off to 4-2 start
Wilson go the Steelers to a 6-5 finish

Fields had career highs in Completion percentage and passing rating so he did get better with better coaching and teammates.

Just saying.
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