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Started by MightyGiants, January 08, 2025, 08:35:29 AM

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Quote from: uconnjack8 on January 08, 2025, 10:55:55 AMInjuries happen and there was a significant number of OL injuries throughout the league this year.  I am sure if you look at teams ranked better than the Giants, a good deal of them had OL injuries. 

Bob Papa brought up this issue on their podcast (see separate thread for the video).  He pointed out that the first time the Giants faced the Eagles, their start LT was out, and their LG got hurt during the game, but their offensive line didn't collapse.   He basically said the Giants need to build a roster where the line doesn't collapse like a game of Jenga if AT gets hurt.
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Quote from: MightyGiants on January 08, 2025, 10:59:33 AMBob Papa brought up this issue on their podcast (see separate thread for the video).  He pointed out that the first time the Giants faced the Eagles, their start LT was out, and their LG got hurt during the game, but their offensive line didn't collapse.   He basically said the Giants need to build a roster where the line doesn't collapse like a game of Jenga if AT gets hurt.

Rich: That indirectly raises a separate issue... depth. If there was one place where the Giants were clearly NOT deep at the start of the season, it was OL.

Let's postulate that EVERY team is not deep at a certain position or positions.

Then there's yet one more element of "luck" involved, inasmuch as your team might be able to withstand lots of injuries at a position of depth, while it's much more likely to collapse even with only one or two which occur at a thin spot. Adding that aspect into the overall "equation" the value of the chart in the original post is further depleted, IMO.

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Quote from: Bob In PA on January 08, 2025, 01:04:02 PMRich: That indirectly raises a separate issue... depth. If there was one place where the Giants were clearly NOT deep at the start of the season, it was OL.

Let's postulate that EVERY team is not deep at a certain position or positions.

Then there's yet one more element of "luck" involved, inasmuch as your team might be able to withstand lots of injuries at a position of depth, while it's much more likely to collapse even with only one or two which occur at a thin spot. Adding that aspect into the overall "equation" the value of the chart in the original post is further depleted, IMO.

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Bob,

I agree with your points.  I think in the case of the Giants, if they want to better weather the loss of AT, they need to upgrade their starting RT and move Jermaine Eluemunor to swing tackle (strengthening depth).  The thing with AT is he is so good they can put him on an island with no help.  That meant the team could slant protection and provide chipping and double-team help to JE.   When AT went down, not only did they downgrade LT, but RT was effectively downgraded as well as they had to greatly reduce the help JE received (hence creating the Jenga effect Bob Papa mentioned)
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Quote from: MightyGiants on January 08, 2025, 01:09:34 PMBob,

I agree with your points.  I think in the case of the Giants, if they want to better weather the loss of AT, they need to upgrade their starting RT and move Jermaine Eluemunor to swing tackle (strengthening depth).  The thing with AT is he is so good they can put him on an island with no help.  That meant the team could slant protection and provide chipping and double-team help to JE.   When AT went down, not only did they downgrade LT, but RT was effectively downgraded as well as they had to greatly reduce the help JE received (hence creating the Jenga effect Bob Papa mentioned)

If he stays healthy (as @kartanoman showed, Thomas misses a lot of time). But I agree with your plan. Bob
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