CFP - Semis/Final

[MightyGiants]

The NIL rules are changing and the free for all days in these initial years are ending.

Just the 2 years added for covid are ridiculous. There are 8 year NCAA D1 athletes, its a joke

Chris,

These days, the idea that any college football player is a "student-athlete" is a joke.  As I said, the college football system is just another professional football league. 

The TV revenue is big bucks, and I don't see either league not doing everything in their power to maximize their income.

[TDToomer]

The NIL rules are changing and the free for all days in these initial years are ending.

Just the 2 years added for covid are ridiculous. There are 8 year 26 and 27 year old NCAA D1 athletes, its a joke

7 years of college! So now we have a bunch of John Blutarski's! All serious how do you spread out 4 years of college over 7 years? Isn't there a minimum of how many classes they must be enrolled in. With all these changes and waivers "College football" is becoming less and less about the reason people go to College.

[MightyGiants]

Allar coming up small in a huge spot. Terrible decision and throw.

Feel like his only completions on the night were on big time defensive brekdowns where the guy was wide open with nobody near him.

Not a guy I can get behind as a draft pick.

He was facing an excellent passing defense and, according to @PSUBeirut, without the best of support. 

Disappointing, as it sounds like the door was shut on any possibility of a great playoff run showing he was a franchise QB prospect and he would change his mind and declare for the draft.  Admittedly, that was a long shot, but in terms of QB, the Giants are in the sort of desperate situation where you hope for a long shot to pay off.

[Jclayton92]

Chris,

Now that the players are paid, you essentially have two professional football leagues changing from their long cooperative history to more of a competitive situation.   The only thing that the NFL can counter these moves by the colleges is to greatly increase the rookie's salary cap so that there is a financial incentive to play for the NFL rather than the college football league.

I think the NFL will drop the 3 year requirement to 2 years pretty quickly now.

[Philosophers]

I think the NFL will drop the 3 year requirement to 2 years pretty quickly now.

That would be a natural response for sure. 

[MightyGiants]

That would be a natural response for sure. 

Many years ago, you saw the NFL vs the AFL.  The way things are going we could see a similar situation with the NFL vs the NCAA

It will hurt the NFL is they become the league with players in their late 20s and 30s and the NCAA has the players when they are young and in their primes

[uconnjack8]

Not too long ago players never came out with less than 4 years in college and 5 years was common.  Personally, I think 23 and 24 year old rookies will help the NFL as they may get more polished NFL ready players as opposed to the Amobi Okoye's that are out of the league relatively quickly. 

I get the opinions of players playing 6 or 7 years, but I don't see why the NFL would now consider letting players in younger.

[Stringer Bell]

We're fast reaching the point with Allar that the parallels to DJ are too much to ignore.

How many excuses over how many years can be made? How many glimpses of greatnesses truly matter if he continues to fall short in big moments? How long can we blame his supporting cast instead of asking why he hasn't been able to elevate his team?

Allar and DJ are mirror images in many respects. And having just gone through 6 years of spinning our wheels while we waited for DJ to figure it out, I have no interest in a prospect with an identical trajectory.

[uconnjack8]

We're fast reaching the point with Allar that the parallels to DJ are too much to ignore.

How many excuses over how many years can be made? How many glimpses of greatnesses truly matter if he continues to fall short in big moments? How long can we blame his supporting cast instead of asking why he hasn't been able to elevate his team?

Allar and DJ are mirror images in many respects. And having just gone through 6 years of spinning our wheels while we waited for DJ to figure it out, I have no interest in a prospect with an identical trajectory.

I am a Penn St fan and do not want Allar on the Giants.  If he takes big steps next year I will reassess but right now it's a hard no for me.  His WR aren't great but he has a great TE, very good RBs and probably the OL I have seen at Penn St in Franklins tenure.  The INT he threw at the end of the game had nothing to do with any player other than Allar.  He made a poor choice and did the one thing he couldn't do in that situation.

I know there are questions about offensive coaching at Penn State and maybe they are warranted, but I just can't get around how he doesn't look naturally comfortable as a QB.  He missed several easy throws last night (which probably wouldn't have mattered without that INT) and has done that all year. 

I think people get very excited about the traditional prototype body and strong arm.  I get it, those things are great to have. 

Bottom line, if you swap QBs last night Penn St wins by 2 or more scores.

[Philosophers]

I am a Penn St fan and do not want Allar on the Giants.  If he takes big steps next year I will reassess but right now it's a hard no for me.  His WR aren't great but he has a great TE, very good RBs and probably the OL I have seen at Penn St in Franklins tenure.  The INT he threw at the end of the game had nothing to do with any player other than Allar.  He made a poor choice and did the one thing he couldn't do in that situation.

I know there are questions about offensive coaching at Penn State and maybe they are warranted, but I just can't get around how he doesn't look naturally comfortable as a QB.  He missed several easy throws last night (which probably wouldn't have mattered without that INT) and has done that all year. 

I think people get very excited about the traditional prototype body and strong arm.  I get it, those things are great to have. 

Bottom line, if you swap QBs last night Penn St wins by 2 or more scores.

Your words speak volumes.  Pay attention to fanbases like you as a Penn St fan. 

[Bob In PA]

Allar coming up small in a huge spot. Terrible decision and throw.

Feel like his only completions on the night were on big time defensive brekdowns where the guy was wide open with nobody near him.

Not a guy I can get behind as a draft pick.

DB: You may disagree, but IMO the INT wasn't the key spot in the game where Allar came up small.

The game was essentially "lost" when Allar's off-target (low and away) 3-yard throw to a wide-open receiver (RB) causing Penn State to have to settle for a field goal in the first quarter. Think about how different the game would have been if they had gone up 14-0.

It was a learning experience for a kid who really hasn't played a lot of QB in his young life (he's only 20 years old and played some other position during his early years in football). He has already learned that you've got to be careful to avoid tensing up when a golden opportunity arises and don't aim the ball. He has also learned not to get excited and overthrow a wide-open man. What he learned last night was DON'T RELAX in the process of remaining calm. You've probably never heard of that one, but it is "a thing" in playing QB. In that situation, the rules are: concentrate on your form and get your feet in the right place. There was plenty of time. He just didn't do it.

Bob

[Bob In PA]

I am a Penn St fan and do not want Allar on the Giants.  If he takes big steps next year I will reassess but right now it's a hard no for me.  His WR aren't great but he has a great TE, very good RBs and probably the OL I have seen at Penn St in Franklins tenure.  The INT he threw at the end of the game had nothing to do with any player other than Allar.  He made a poor choice and did the one thing he couldn't do in that situation.

I know there are questions about offensive coaching at Penn State and maybe they are warranted, but I just can't get around how he doesn't look naturally comfortable as a QB.  He missed several easy throws last night (which probably wouldn't have mattered without that INT) and has done that all year. 

I think people get very excited about the traditional prototype body and strong arm.  I get it, those things are great to have. 

Bottom line, if you swap QBs last night Penn St wins by 2 or more scores.

uconn: I can agree with almost everything you wrote, but see my post to @DaveBrown74 right above this post. Bob

[uconnjack8]

uconn: I can agree with almost everything you wrote, but see my post to @DaveBrown74 right above this post. Bob

Bob, You're not wrong.  If they had capitalized on those early possessions that last 4 minutes would have been a very difference scenario.  It was a tough loss and I thought overall a great game to watch.  Both teams made some plays to change momentum when needed and looked the part.

They were running the ball so well early that it got me thinking they might run over ND in the 2nd half.  Credit to ND for adjusting and making the plays when needed. 

[Bob In PA]

Bob, You're not wrong.  If they had capitalized on those early possessions that last 4 minutes would have been a very difference scenario.  It was a tough loss and I thought overall a great game to watch.  Both teams made some plays to change momentum when needed and looked the part.

They were running the ball so well early that it got me thinking they might run over ND in the 2nd half.  Credit to ND for adjusting and making the plays when needed. 

uconn: You laid your finger on it at the end. ND deserved to win IMO because their halftime adjustments were superior to those (if any) made by PSU. I think when you start off strong as Penn State did, there is a tendency to avoid making a lot of changes at halftime, which as I already said made scoring a touchdown instead of a field goal in the first quarter of extra importance. Bob

[Gman329]

Also a Penn St fan and I'm amazed that PSU got as far as they did with such mediocre QB play.