Will Johnson, Abdul Carter, Mason Graham

[Philosophers]

The top 10 paid interior DL all have contracts at $90 million or above.  Good ones are not cheap.  Remember Leonard Williams' contract.

[Jclayton92]

You cant just look at stats.  If he commands a double team or frees up Okereke, he won.

We had guys on the cheap at DT and it didnt work.

That has more value than a true #1 lockdown corner to you?

[killarich]

That has more value than a true #1 lockdown corner to you?

It depends... If you have someone who is pretty damn good next to Dex.... It will make our pass rushing the main focus of every teams game planning.... If Graham is what he is being made out to be how do you block that ? If you double anyone of Dex, Graham, Burns or Thibs you have three other options to worry about

Having a beast D-line makes Thibs "Clean Up" sacks much more crucial and important

Okereke and McFadden ain't too shabby either


I would love a shutdown corner


But if we can sign the 2025 version of Corey Webster and add Graham ... I would choose that option

[sooners56]

It depends... If you have someone who is pretty damn good next to Dex.... It will make our pass rushing the main focus of every teams game planning.... If Graham is what he is being made out to be how do you block that ? If you double anyone of Dex, Graham, Burns or Thibs you have three other options to worry about

Having a beast D-line makes Thibs "Clean Up" sacks much more crucial and important

Okereke and McFadden ain't too shabby either


I would love a shutdown corner


But if we can sign the 2025 version of Corey Webster and add Graham ... I would choose that option

To counter the pass rush many teams throw quick passes. If you have a lockdown corner you can play man which makes those quick passes harder to do, imo.

[Philosophers]

That has more value than a true #1 lockdown corner to you?

I never said that.  Just said making an offense 1 dimensional may be a D's best present to itself plus an ability to push back the interior pocket.  Agree that lockdown CBs are very valuable.

[Philosophers]

To counter the pass rush many teams throw quick passes. If you have a lockdown corner you can play man which makes those quick passes harder to do, imo.

Fair point.  Will Johnson is a very good tackler so quick passes to him typically generate less YAC.

[Giantleap56]

One thing Giants always had on defense was a HOF type player. As of now the Giants have Dex who might be headed that way but needs to do more if he wants HOF. Other than Dex the Giants have okay pass rushers no one that is even All Pro consideration. That is why I truly believe the pick at three needs to be Carter. I think Carter will be perennial All Pro averaging 12-15 sacks per year and cause havoc on the defensive side of the ball. He will bring back memories of Strahan, Osi and Tuck. The Giants have always been about defense.  Defense wins championships.

[Philosophers]

To any Penn State fan who watches ALOT of Penn State games - does Carter take plays off or throttles down in plays or does he play to the whistle like Micah Parsons?  In the few PSU games I watched, he seems to do that.

[Shoelessjoe]

You have to look at the draft in terms of its strength. One of the strongest positions in this year's draft is reported to be DT. That being said it isn't that the Giants' defense needs Tackles but what would be more important or more difficult later in the draft? Is adding a shutdown Corner or pass-rushing DE more important?

[Jclayton92]

You have to look at the draft in terms of its strength. One of the strongest positions in this year's draft is reported to be DT. That being said it isn't that the Giants' defense needs Tackles but what would be more important or more difficult later in the draft? Is adding a shutdown Corner or pass-rushing DE more important?

I wouldn't call it deep, there are 2 1st rd prospects, and 3-4 2nd/3rd rd prospects. Cb, wr, and Ot are much deeper.

[Philosophers]

I wouldn't call it deep, there are 2 1st rd prospects, and 3-4 2nd/3rd rd prospects. Cb, wr, and Ot are much deeper.

If we got Will Johnson in round 1, then your boy Nolen in round 2 for DT and got an OT in round 3 like Josh Connerly from Oregon or maybe Emery Jones from LSU with a Will Howard QB in round 4 and with a FA QB, that would be a good haul of talent at critical positions.

[Gmo11]

If we got Will Johnson in round 1, then your boy Nolen in round 2 for DT and got an OT in round 3 like Josh Connerly from Oregon or maybe Emery Jones from LSU with a Will Howard QB in round 4 and with a FA QB, that would be a good haul of talent at critical positions.

Is Will Howard good?  Because if he's good he can't possibly last to the 4th round right?  And if he does last to the 4th round is he worth the Giants time since they need a guy that can start right away and not be a disaster?

[uconnjack8]

If we got Will Johnson in round 1, then your boy Nolen in round 2 for DT and got an OT in round 3 like Josh Connerly from Oregon or maybe Emery Jones from LSU with a Will Howard QB in round 4 and with a FA QB, that would be a good haul of talent at critical positions.

Joe,

I get that this draft has a lean toward defense in terms of how prospects rate.  That being said, is there no offensive players worth taking in the 2nd?  Lineman that rate equally to the DT in the 2nd?

I don't want them drafting for need rather than BPA, just hard to fathom that a team that has averaged under 16 ppg for 2 years would draft defense in rounds 1 and 2.

[Jclayton92]

If we got Will Johnson in round 1, then your boy Nolen in round 2 for DT and got an OT in round 3 like Josh Connerly from Oregon or maybe Emery Jones from LSU with a Will Howard QB in round 4 and with a FA QB, that would be a good haul of talent at critical positions.

I like the RT from Texas on top ov Connerly for a mid round tackle. I'd be happy with that draft.

[Brooklyn Dave]

I think you sign a FA QB , draft Mason Graham at 3 and a QB with the second pick in the second round. In round 3 and OL men in both rounds