I cant help but feel a HUGE mistake drafting a QB this year

[brownelvis54]

If I asked you to name the "star players" om any given team in the NFL, I think most here could name them. As it pertains to the Giants, who would be your game changers? Who would be your stars? Your game changers? Malik Nabers, Dexter Lawrence, Andrew Thomas and perhaps Brian Burns? Am I forgetting someone? Thomas is an elite LT, but also often injured, Brian Burns, huge contract, played very well, hope to see more out of him next year. And Sexy Dexie and Nabers are studs.


Our team is incomplete, needs more elite players at any position, if we can get them. The thought of losing out on Abdul Carter, Travis Hunter or Mason Graham would be very disappointing IMO.

Our team is in such need and our division has gotten better and add to the fact we play the NFC North next year and AFC West, this group has 8 teams in this years playoffs, two of which are in this years Super bowl, spells a very bad record next year. I could be wrong, but it sure feels this way.

If true, the Giants will have a high pick in the 2026 draft, the QB class is better. IMO much better.


This draft I would like to get one of the top three mentioned. At some point a CB, RG, DT, EDGE and a swing Tackle.


The QB class of 2026

LaNorris Sellers, Nico Iamaleava, Drew Allar, Garrett Nussmeier and Carson Beck all these guys are big QBs 6'2" thru 6'6" Lets not forget ( doubtful) Arch Manning could be on this list too

Drafting any of them in 2026 would mean they would go to a Giants team more complete than what Saunders or Ward would go to in 2025.

Looking at the schedule and our current roster going into the 2025 season....do you think Ward or Saunders will be successful behind our line going against the likes of Detroit, KC, Philly to name a few?



Here in order are my favorites. Of the five Beck would be my last choice.


DREW ALLAR

LA-NORRIS SELLERS

GARRETT NUSSMEIER

Nico Iamaleava

 

[madbadger]

Every quarterback you mentioned have as many, if not more questions about their game as Ward or Sanders. Why delay your attempt to address the single biggest issue on the roster only to draft a guy with similar concerns? Ward out performed every single quarterback on your list this year with the exception of Allar who is prone to doing really stupid things at the worst possible time.

[Philosophers]

My view is we need so many good players at different positions that to take a mediocre QB in any round relative to other years seems a mistake. 

[brownelvis54]

Every quarterback you mentioned have as many, if not more questions about their game as Ward or Sanders. Why delay your attempt to address the single biggest issue on the roster only to draft a guy with similar concerns? Ward out performed every single quarterback on your list this year with the exception of Allar who is prone to doing really stupid things at the worst possible time.

You mentioned Ward. What if at pick 3 Ward is gone? Should we take Saunders "just because" we need one? In 1994 there were two QBs, the Skins took Heath Shuler at pick 3 and right after Patriots took Willie McGinest, the 2nd QB drafted was Trent Dilfer and the pick right after was Bryant Young taken by 49ers.

Giants have to make the right choice, and perhaps Ward and Saunders will be elite QBs. The point I was making is with this extreme schedule coming up, should we get a QB just to sit? Or wait until 2026.

[madbadger]

You mentioned Ward. What if at pick 3 Ward is gone? Should we take Saunders "just because" we need one? In 1994 there were two QBs, the Skins took Heath Shuler at pick 3 and right after Patriots took Willie McGinest, the 2nd QB drafted was Trent Dilfer and the pick right after was Bryant Young taken by 49ers.

Giants have to make the right choice, and perhaps Ward and Saunders will be elite QBs. The point I was making is with this extreme schedule coming up, should we get a QB just to sit? Or wait until 2026.

You said it would be a huge mistake to draft a quarterback in this draft. Presumably that included Ward. I think Ward is more proven than anyone you named in your post. That's not to say one of those guys can't really develop but as of now he's a better prospect and passing on him would be a huge mistake. There were reports that Nabers was really annoyed with the quarterback situation. You really want to roll with some retread like Fields and wait another year? I'm not a fan of Sanders but we go through this seemingly every year where posters say we'd be better off waiting a year and the following year we're still stuck with a garbage quarterback and a top 10 pick that posters want to use on anyone other than a quarterback. That's one of the reasons why this team has been hot garbage for more than a decade. We've passed on stud quarterbacks to draft guys who are no longer around.

[katkavage]

You mentioned Ward. What if at pick 3 Ward is gone? Should we take Saunders "just because" we need one? In 1994 there were two QBs, the Skins took Heath Shuler at pick 3 and right after Patriots took Willie McGinest, the 2nd QB drafted was Trent Dilfer and the pick right after was Bryant Young taken by 49ers.

Giants have to make the right choice, and perhaps Ward and Saunders will be elite QBs. The point I was making is with this extreme schedule coming up, should we get a QB just to sit? Or wait until 2026.

They should wait, but you are ignoring the elephant in the room. Mara stupidly retained the GM and coach giving them an ultimatum. How can they expect improvement without a considerable upgrade at QB? You mentioned the schedule. Do you think Mara gives them another year if it's a bad one and they don't have a QB to develop?

[Jclayton92]

Every quarterback you mentioned have as many, if not more questions about their game as Ward or Sanders. Why delay your attempt to address the single biggest issue on the roster only to draft a guy with similar concerns? Ward out performed every single quarterback on your list this year with the exception of Allar who is prone to doing really stupid things at the worst possible time.

Spot on, Sellers is virtually a Milroe clone until his passing gets better, if it does. Allar has always left a lot to be desired, Nussmeier and Beck will likely be day 3 picks, and while Nico has talent, it has yet to materialize in game. Ward, Sanders, and Dart are significantly better prospects right now than those 5.

[Jclayton92]

Also how many star players do people think are on any given team? Look at the Commanders, Texans, Chargers, Bengals, and so on. Most teams have maybe 5 to 7 elite/star players, but the bulk is made up of people you may have heard of but don't really know. The differentiator is the Qb position, our defense would likely put up a lot better numbers if the offense didn't go 3 and out with a bad qb constantly. The D might get more turnovers and sacks if the opposing team was put into passing situations because our offense put up numbers. Our offensive players would likely turn into stars if we had a competent Qb that didn't walk into sacks, Tracy may be elite if opposing D even remotely feared the pass.

We aren't that far off.

[Gmo11]

The Giants have cap space, and an owner mandate to win and win immediately.  There are no free agent QBs that you can reasonably be confident in winning games immediately.  Certainly none worth the contract they're about to get (looking at you Darnold).  So what is almost certain to happen is the Giants use their cap space to fill out remaining holes at CB, Guard, possibly Center or another RB, and then draft a QB and hope for the best.

I do not think taking a QB this season is a mistake simply because it's this season.  I would certainly not trade up from 3 to 1 in order to take one, but if one of them is there at 3 and they believe that guy fits Daboll's system, is smart enough to read a defense, and has an arm strong enough to actually be able to put Hyatt on the damn field, then I'm fine with them taking him. 

I'd be fine with Jaxon Dart or Milroe later in the 1st round after a trade down or trade up from the 2nd round pick as well. 

None of the names mentioned in the original post do anything more for me than some of these guys right now besides Arch Manning.  And in order to guarantee you get Arch you basically have to lose every game next season.  Which would lead to everybody getting fired anyway. So there's just no way that's going to happen.  Not drafting a QB this season might as well be signing their own pink slips for Schoen and Daboll.

[katkavage]

The Giants have cap space, and an owner mandate to win and win immediately.  There are no free agent QBs that you can reasonably be confident in winning games immediately.  Certainly none worth the contract they're about to get (looking at you Darnold).  So what is almost certain to happen is the Giants use their cap space to fill out remaining holes at CB, Guard, possibly Center or another RB, and then draft a QB and hope for the best.

I do not think taking a QB this season is a mistake simply because it's this season.  I would certainly not trade up from 3 to 1 in order to take one, but if one of them is there at 3 and they believe that guy fits Daboll's system, is smart enough to read a defense, and has an arm strong enough to actually be able to put Hyatt on the damn field, then I'm fine with them taking him. 

I'd be fine with Jaxon Dart or Milroe later in the 1st round after a trade down or trade up from the 2nd round pick as well. 

None of the names mentioned in the original post do anything more for me than some of these guys right now besides Arch Manning.  And in order to guarantee you get Arch you basically have to lose every game next season.  Which would lead to everybody getting fired anyway. So there's just no way that's going to happen.  Not drafting a QB this season might as well be signing their own pink slips for Schoen and Daboll.

Absolutely. They need to hope whoever they draft actually results in a few more wins and shows growth potential or they are goners.

[y_so_blu]

This year, I agree. Last year was the time to draft a quarterback.

[brownelvis54]

This year, I agree. Last year was the time to draft a quarterback.

Always draft the best pick available when it is your turn, regardless of need or position.  Neither Ward nor Sanders meet that description.  Abdul Carter does, but he might be taken No. 1.