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Dane Brugler on this year's quaterback draft class

Started by MightyGiants, January 28, 2025, 10:35:41 AM

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Ed Vette

Here's the thing with this QB Draft Class. Every one of them in some aspect are a product of their system or they need development that would take some time in order to adapt to the challenges of being an NFL QB. I have serious reservations that the top six will be Drafted in the best environment to promote their development. Especially if they get Drafted in a throw away round.

It takes a lot of serious hard work also on the part of the player. Drew Lock is an example of a QB hurting himself in early development. Same with Anthony Richardson. Compare them to Josh Allen and Bo Nix to see the fruitful rewards of hard work and being a student of the game.

Quite frankly, I would like to see the Giants draft two QBs from this class to develop. One as a potential starter and one as a backup in a later round if he's still there. I also think that putting a QB in a box is a mistake. The 74 MPH kid out of Oregon is already a better QB than about a dozen drafted to start QBs from the last five years. Such as Bryce Young.
"There is a greater purpose...that purpose is team. Winning, losing, playing hard, playing well, doing it for each other, winning the right way, winning the right way is a very important thing to me... Championships are won by teams who love one another, who respect one another, and play for and support one another."
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Jclayton92

Quote from: Ed Vette on January 29, 2025, 11:54:32 AMHere's the thing with this QB Draft Class. Every one of them in some aspect are a product of their system or they need development that would take some time in order to adapt to the challenges of being an NFL QB. I have serious reservations that the top six will be Drafted in the best environment to promote their development. Especially if they get Drafted in a throw away round.

It takes a lot of serious hard work also on the part of the player. Drew Lock is an example of a QB hurting himself in early development. Same with Anthony Richardson. Compare them to Josh Allen and Bo Nix to see the fruitful rewards of hard work and being a student of the game.

Quite frankly, I would like to see the Giants draft two QBs from this class to develop. One as a potential starter and one as a backup in a later round if he's still there. I also think that putting a QB in a box is a mistake. The 74 MPH kid out of Oregon is already a better QB than about a dozen drafted to start QBs from the last five years. Such as Bryce Young.
My dream situation right now is that Sanders and Ward make it to pick 3 and we trade out with Las Vegas, and get more picks for the mid round. I'd then take Dart at the top of the 2nd or trade a day 3 pick to move 3 spots back into the 1st and the take Gabriel/McCord on Day 3 with our extra 4ths. So you have your starter and backup, let them compete and push each other letting the best player start then hopefully you develop the backup to trade in a couple years for a 2nd/3rd if your starter really takes off.

nb587

Quote from: Jclayton92 on January 29, 2025, 12:41:21 PMMy dream situation right now is that Sanders and Ward make it to pick 3 and we trade out with Las Vegas, and get more picks for the mid round. I'd then take Dart at the top of the 2nd or trade a day 3 pick to move 3 spots back into the 1st and the take Gabriel/McCord on Day 3 with our extra 4ths. So you have your starter and backup, let them compete and push each other letting the best player start then hopefully you develop the backup to trade in a couple years for a 2nd/3rd if your starter really takes off.
Sort of like the idea of drafting 2 QBs but there's a giant but here.  We have more needs than picks and I'm assuming we need to sign a vet QB anyway so we'll have 3 on the roster.  I'm ok with that.  When you talk about trading down to target a particular player, you're losing another pick, at least one, and probably a premium pick.  I know we have decent money to spend on free agents but that's a tall order

Ed Vette

Quote from: Jclayton92 on January 29, 2025, 12:41:21 PMMy dream situation right now is that Sanders and Ward make it to pick 3 and we trade out with Las Vegas, and get more picks for the mid round. I'd then take Dart at the top of the 2nd or trade a day 3 pick to move 3 spots back into the 1st and the take Gabriel/McCord on Day 3 with our extra 4ths. So you have your starter and backup, let them compete and push each other letting the best player start then hopefully you develop the backup to trade in a couple years for a 2nd/3rd if your starter really takes off.
You read my mind. They may not last day three though. We shall see.
"There is a greater purpose...that purpose is team. Winning, losing, playing hard, playing well, doing it for each other, winning the right way, winning the right way is a very important thing to me... Championships are won by teams who love one another, who respect one another, and play for and support one another."
~ Coach Tom Coughlin

Philosophers

Quote from: Ed Vette on January 29, 2025, 01:26:32 PMYou read my mind. They may not last day three though. We shall see.

None of the QBs are impressing me now.  Sign a FA QB a d trade out of 3 so someone else gets maybe a QB and build up other positions especially OL and DL and a WR2.

katkavage

Quote from: Philosophers on January 29, 2025, 02:01:47 PMNone of the QBs are impressing me now.  Sign a FA QB a d trade out of 3 so someone else gets maybe a QB and build up other positions especially OL and DL and a WR2.
I agree. None of these QBs are good enough to truly elevate a team including the free agent options. Build up the other positions and get a QB in 2026 with a new coach and GM. 2025 without any competent QB will be a disaster even if the other positions are improved.


DaveBrown74

I love the dream situation scenario, but I'm afraid trading down is a pipe dream when we're talking about a GM/coach in pure do or die desperation, must-win-more-games-right-now mode. Which is absolutely what Schoen and Daboll are in.

I hate to say this, and I know nobody wants to hear this including me, but I think there is a much higher chance that we trade up for one of Ward/Sanders than that we trade down.


katkavage

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on January 29, 2025, 04:43:04 PMI love the dream situation scenario, but I'm afraid trading down is a pipe dream when we're talking about a GM/coach in pure do or die desperation, must-win-more-games-right-now mode. Which is absolutely what Schoen and Daboll are in.

I hate to say this, and I know nobody wants to hear this including me, but I think there is a much higher chance that we trade up for one of Ward/Sanders than that we trade down.


I agree. This is the situation Mara created. And it began a year ago when they passed on a QB putting them in the desperation mode.

uconnjack8

I think Brugler either didn't understand this persons question or dodged it

Jclayton92

Quote from: uconnjack8 on January 29, 2025, 06:12:23 PMI think Brugler either didn't understand this persons question or dodged it
kinda got called out and his answer basically ignores the question especially when you consider him saying all these qbs would be qb 7 last year.