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Cam Ward VS Shedeur Sanders VS Jaxson Dart

Started by MightyGiants, February 02, 2025, 05:19:06 PM

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Ed Vette

#285
March 06, 2025, 01:10:30 PM
Quote from: Ed Vette on March 06, 2025, 01:05:51 PMJT broke down ever single game of Shedeur Sanders 2024 games. I saw most of them. This is the the most complete evaluation you will find and it's from someone who actually played the position.
The Cliff notes:
https://x.com/theqbschool/status/1897394480271253701?
"There is a greater purpose...that purpose is team. Winning, losing, playing hard, playing well, doing it for each other, winning the right way, winning the right way is a very important thing to me... Championships are won by teams who love one another, who respect one another, and play for and support one another."
~ Coach Tom Coughlin

MightyGiants

#286
March 06, 2025, 01:18:47 PM
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Painter

#287
March 06, 2025, 02:22:38 PM
Really now? That's a big help even if we could otherwise figure it out which is why I wouldn't dare link to it.

Cheers!

Ed Vette

#288
March 06, 2025, 02:43:50 PM
Quote from: MightyGiants on March 06, 2025, 01:18:47 PM@Ed Vette


https://x.com/SharpFootball/status/1897708550291362169
Rich,
JT is spot on. That Offense is horrible. They are in 10 personnel almost 95% of the time. It's nowhere near a Pro Offense. It kills the OT's who aren't very good to begin with. Think the worst the NYGs Offensive Line ever was, and this is it. No creativity, No Running Game, No Motion. They killed this kid, and I blame his dad too. It's a shame because the receivers are very good to Hunter good. I just watched the Nebraska game and that's all you need to know about that Offense. I was shocked that it's a Pat Shurmur product, but the talent just isn't there. SS is going to need a year to prepare for this league and start. Contrary to what some might think, I don't blame SS.
"There is a greater purpose...that purpose is team. Winning, losing, playing hard, playing well, doing it for each other, winning the right way, winning the right way is a very important thing to me... Championships are won by teams who love one another, who respect one another, and play for and support one another."
~ Coach Tom Coughlin

MightyGiants

#289
March 08, 2025, 07:58:38 AM
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MightyGiants

#290
March 09, 2025, 09:17:49 AM
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Philosophers

#291
March 09, 2025, 10:09:51 AM
People see one throw by any QB who does things right and concludes greatness.  Consistency of pattern.

That's why I rely less on what others see because you have to watch a player across many games to see a pattern of consistency and context.

spiderblue43

#292
March 09, 2025, 12:19:19 PM
I like Dart's.. ceiling...not Shedurr. Sanders has a high floor .lower ceiling to me.

My approach would be take Carter or Hunter if available..if not trade down and grab Dart to develop..add draft capital so needed.

Philosophers

#293
March 09, 2025, 12:24:02 PM
Quote from: spiderblue43 on March 09, 2025, 12:19:19 PMI like Dart's.. ceiling...not Shedurr. Sanders has a high floor .lower ceiling to me.

My approach would be take Carter or Hunter if available..if not trade down and grab Dart to develop..add draft capital so needed.

That makes sense though I'd add Graham and Johnson for #3 pick and hope Dart lasts to round 2.  Would need OL help though in round 3 and look for more DL help in round 4 if you dont take Carter or Graham.

spiderblue43

#294
March 09, 2025, 12:26:38 PM
Quote from: Philosophers on March 09, 2025, 12:24:02 PMThat makes sense though I'd add Graham and Johnson for #3 pick and hope Dart lasts to round 2.  Would need OL help though in round 3 and look for more DL help in round 4 if you dont take Carter or Graham.

Yes..and those two...good catch

spiderblue43

#295
March 09, 2025, 12:33:52 PM
And Dart played with the big boy football of the SEC...that's as close to pro intensity anywhere..and broke records..has the requisite skills to become a very solid..very good starter..so I'm in on him later

MightyGiants

#296
March 16, 2025, 03:02:47 PM
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Brooklyn Dave

#297
March 17, 2025, 05:55:40 AM
Did anyone think that Jayden Daniels would be as good as he is so quickly ?    If by chance Cam Ward turns out to be a franchise QBs then winning the Indianapolis game will turn out to be one of the biggest blunders no matter what John Mara says

MightyGiants

#298
March 17, 2025, 09:13:32 AM
Quote from: Brooklyn Dave on March 17, 2025, 05:55:40 AMDid anyone think that Jayden Daniels would be as good as he is so quickly ?    If by chance Cam Ward turns out to be a franchise QBs then winning the Indianapolis game will turn out to be one of the biggest blunders no matter what John Mara says

Daniels was thought of quite highly by most draft evaluators.  The biggest concern seemed to be his size and aggressive style that generated big hits.  The fear was not that he would be a bad QB, but rather he would get hurt.   To JD's credit, he became more cautious when he got to the NFL.

The only other concern with Daniels was he was throwing to two elite WRs in Nabers and Thomas.

I don't think Ward is the same level of prospect as Daniels.  I think he is closer to the Nix level of prospect.  Perhaps the biggest concerns with Ward his his penchant for ill-advised throws leading to INTs and his passing up good yardage due to play design while trying to make more off-script.
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