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Started by Brooklyn Dave, February 10, 2025, 05:09:22 PM

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Brooklyn Dave

Depending upon what the Rams would want , would you be in favor of him as a bridge QB ? Cooper Kupp if we acquired Stafford ?

Trench

Quote from: Brooklyn Dave on February 10, 2025, 05:09:22 PMDepending upon what the Rams would want , would you be in favor of him as a bridge QB ? Cooper Kupp if we acquired Stafford ?

Absolutely

MrGap92

He would cost too much to make any form of sense.

DaveBrown74

I don't personally want to trade for an old QB. We need to be getting more draft capital, if anything. Not giving it away.

andrew_nyGiants

Whenever I think of the Giants trading for an aging Quarterback, this memory comes to mind:
Craig Morton for the 1st round pick that gave the Cowboys HOF DT Randy White.

So NO! Please don't compound the stupidity.
From Simms to Eli (with an assist from Hoss) our Super Bowl Quarterbacks. Great defense and clutch QB performances...NY Giants Championship football.

I have an old profile still floating around: andrew_nyg....I am one and the same!

Gman329

Funny this comes up. I was just daydreaming yesterday about both Kupp and Stafford on the Giants next year! Kupp will be a Free Agent.  We sign him and Stafford might not cost as much as you might think in a trade....at least this was my daydream. A #3 this year and a conditional #3 next year that could go to a #2 if certain marks are hit....and maybe Jalin Hyatt is part of the deal. They'll want Dru Phillips but Joe says no. 

And we draft Ward, Sanders or Dart.  Could there be a better QB to sit and learn under than Matt Stafford?  He's got two years left on his contract. Under this scenario, he'd be an expensive back up for the last year....but worth it for the counsel he'd offer the young QB.


uconnjack8

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I really don't understand the Stafford to the Giants rumors. May be I have been out of loop, but someone please explain these things to me:

1) Where is it coming from that he is available via trade? 
2) Rams have similar cap space to the Giants.  Why would a team that was in the playoffs this year want to trade a franchise QB? 
3)Why wouldn't they want to try and make another Super Bowl run with him?
4) Why would Stafford come to the Giants at this stage of his career?

As for whether I would want him or not, it's a big no.  They need to accumulate draft picks and use them to build a young team. Not trade them for a guy who will retire in a year or two.

DaveBrown74

Quote from: uconnjack8 on February 10, 2025, 06:57:56 PMI really don't understand the Stafford to the Giants rumors. May be I have been out of loop, but someone please explain these things to me:

1) Where is it coming from that he is available via trade? 
2) Rams have similar cap space to the Giants.  Why would a team that was in the playoffs this year want to trade a franchise QB? 
3)Why wouldn't they want to try and make another Super Bowl run with him?
4) Why wouldn't Stafford come to the Giants at this stage of his career?

As for whether I would want him or not, it's a big no.  They need to accumulate draft picks and use them to build a young team. Not trade them for a guy who will retire in a year or two.

All agreed. I don't have answers to your questions, but I do agree with what you say at the end.

I am actually somewhat taken aback by how many posts I have seen today expressing a desire to use meaningful team resources (including trading draft capital and spending real money) to bring in very old players in the twilight of their careers. I just don't understand why anyone would want to do that with one of the worst teams in the league. Have people forgotten that we are 9-25 in our past two seasons?

We need to build through the draft. Our complete inability to do that over the past decade is the number one reason by far that we are as bad as we are. When you're terrible, which we most certainly are, you don't get better by paying up for a 38 year old QB or a 32 year old wide receiver, particularly if that involves giving away picks.


Brooklyn Dave

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on February 10, 2025, 07:21:16 PMAll agreed. I don't have answers to your questions, but I do agree with what you say at the end.

I am actually somewhat taken aback by how many posts I have seen today express
ing a desire to use meaningful team resources (including trading draft capital and spending real money) to bring in very old players in the twilight of their careers. I just don't understand why anyone would want to do that with one of the worst teams in the league. Have people forgotten that we are 9-25 in our past two seasons?

We need to build through the draft. Our complete inability to do that over the past decade is the number one reason by far that we are as bad as we are. When you're terrible, which we most certainly are, you don't get better by paying up for a 38 year old QB or a 32 year old wide receiver, particularly if that involves giving away picks.

Dave, We tried to build through the draft. How did that work out in our 2022 and 2023 drafts ?

DaveBrown74

Quote from: Brooklyn Dave on February 10, 2025, 08:19:02 PMDave, We tried to build through the draft. How did that work out in our 2022 and 2023 drafts ?

Poorly. It's still the right way to do it though. We have just had incompetent people doing it.

I don't know about you, but I'd rather have the right people building my team the right way. I don't want to intentionally do things the wrong way just because we haven't had people capable of doing things the right way.

uconnjack8

Quote from: Brooklyn Dave on February 10, 2025, 08:19:02 PMDave, We tried to build through the draft. How did that work out in our 2022 and 2023 drafts ?

It would be one thing if they had a solid team to try and make a run at a Super Bowl but the team is no where close to that.

The Jets have tried signing past their prime QBs multiple times and that hasn't worked. 

todge

Not a believer in signing a past-his-prime, vet QB unless he's the final piece. This team is more than a QB away from being a competitor.


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sxdxca38

If you trade for Stafford the Giants will win too many games next year to be in contention to draft a top QB, unless they draft one this year.

Stafford is a hard no for me, too old and we really need to be building for the future, not throwing the future away for the present.

Jclayton92

I mean if it's for a 5th rd pick for 2 years to give time for us to groom someone, then sure. I'm not giving up a 1st, 2nd, or 3rd because then you have to pay him.