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Matthew Stafford

Started by Brooklyn Dave, February 10, 2025, 05:09:22 PM

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MightyGiants

I am seeing low quality "insider" information that the Giants are discussing with LA the possibility of a trade for Stafford.

However, some of those claims are being covered with an out.  They claim other teams are in talks as well.  If another team trades for them, the so-called insider can claim the Giants were outbid.
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expatriot

Why would the Rams trade Stafford? They were pretty close to getting to the Super Bowl.  Ridiculous.

MightyGiants

Quote from: expatriot on February 13, 2025, 12:37:55 PMWhy would the Rams trade Stafford? They were pretty close to getting to the Super Bowl.  Ridiculous.

That's why I take all of this with a grain of salt.
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MrGap92

Even if they want a young QB, they too need a bridge, why get rid of him to help another team do what they should be having him do?

uconnjack8

Quote from: expatriot on February 13, 2025, 12:37:55 PMWhy would the Rams trade Stafford? They were pretty close to getting to the Super Bowl.  Ridiculous.

My first thought when I saw the rumors.  This one reeks of media people needing stories to write.

MightyGiants

Quote from: uconnjack8 on February 13, 2025, 01:28:50 PMMy first thought when I saw the rumors.  This one reeks of media people needing stories to write.

Plus, plenty of wanna-be insiders figure the whole Stafford brother-in-law hire was a chance to gain credibility.
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Dumpster Dan

Could he be a cap casualty??

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MightyGiants

Quote from: Dumpster Dan on February 13, 2025, 01:40:43 PMCould he be a cap casualty??

Dumpster Dan

Dan,

The way the contract is structured, releasing him or trading him doesn't really free up a lot of true cap space (cut- a little over $300K and trade- around $4 million).  Sure, they could use his release to borrow future cap dollars, but there are other ways to do that, and the team isn't hurting for cap space.

Plus whatever cap space they free up quickly gets eaten up (and more) by his replacement
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uconnjack8

Quote from: MightyGiants on February 13, 2025, 01:50:45 PMDan,

The way the contract is structured, releasing him or trading him doesn't really free up a lot of true cap space (cut- a little over $300K and trade- around $4 million).  Sure, they could use his release to borrow future cap dollars, but there are other ways to do that, and the team isn't hurting for cap space.

Plus whatever cap space they free up quickly gets eaten up (and more) by his replacement

I was thinking they would just guarantee some of his salary for the next couple of years to make him happy.

As you mentioned they are not up against the cap and his cap number is right in line with other QBs, or compared to some,  a bargain


SlotCorner

For a fourth, or lower I don't see the issue. The plan was always to get a vet and draft a rookie. Stafford would be a lot better than any of the other castoffs you hear are available. The key is getting him without mortgaging the future. Hard to do I think.

DaveBrown74

Stafford was ok but nothing special this year. 13th in passing yards, 15th in passing TDs, 15th in QB rating, 16th in YPA. And this was with some pretty nice talent around him and perhaps the best play caller in the sport in McVay.

From where I am sitting that's a pretty average looking season. It is not clear to me why anyone would expect even a repeat of that performance, let alone something better, from him a year older and on an inferior team with an inferior play caller.

So, is some lesser version of that from a player who is in the final act of his career worth spending significant resources on?

AYM

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on February 13, 2025, 09:36:52 PMStafford was ok but nothing special this year. 13th in passing yards, 15th in passing TDs, 15th in QB rating, 16th in YPA. And this was with some pretty nice talent around him and perhaps the best play caller in the sport in McVay.

From where I am sitting that's a pretty average looking season. It is not clear to me why anyone would expect even a repeat of that performance, let alone something better, from him a year older and on an inferior team with an inferior play caller.

So, is some lesser version of that from a player who is in the final act of his career worth spending significant resources on?

Unfortunately, if your job is on the line, and your seat is as hot as the surface of the sun, then it's worth it to try to buy yourself another year. You may even agree to trade the #3 overall pick and hope Stafford can give you the "improvement" your owner wants to see, at least for a season.

EDjohnst1981

The Giants aren't trading the 3rd overall for Stafford.


MightyGiants

I suspect all this talk of Stafford to LA is just hot air and bull crap.  The Rams are just using the threat of trading away Stafford to the NFL version of Syberia as leverage to get him to sign a more team-friendly contract this season.
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